Re: Oscars cooking on Gas
Re: Oscars cooking on Gas
What happened to Oscar's "timing" reason?
Oscar couldn't catch Shane in his prime with thew same holes Vernon Forrest did so how is he out of his prime gonna match Speed with Floyd when Mosley hit him with basic jab jab right hands and he thinks he will?
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Its more a matter of how much speed PBF loses at this weight. He will come in light but still heavier than his fights against Judah and Baldomir. And he didnt have blistering handspeed in those fights. Judah was faster, and Baldomir made him look real fast.
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DLH is only four years older than Floyd? For some reason that surprised me.
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Originally Posted by Starr
What happened to Oscar's "timing" reason?
Oscar couldn't catch Shane in his prime with thew same holes Vernon Forrest did so how is he out of his prime gonna match Speed with Floyd when Mosley hit him with basic jab jab right hands and he thinks he will?
Oh! no!
The ALL MIGHTY expert/trainer is here. Beware everyone she has the key to success and she knows how to beat everyone. :beat:
It's a known fact that SOME fighters just have someones number. Jr. Jones had MABs number, Vernon had SSMs number thats just the way it goes.
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DLH is only four years older than Floyd? For some reason that surprised me.
But hes like 10 ring years older
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Originally Posted by BoomBoom
Its more a matter of how much speed PBF loses at this weight. He will come in light but still heavier than his fights against Judah and Baldomir.
I believe he weighed 149 when he entered the ring against Baldomir, and Floyd is at 150 right now, so he's at almost the exact same weight.
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And he didnt have blistering handspeed in those fights. Judah was faster, and Baldomir made him look real fast.
Judah wasn't faster. Judah landed some good shots because he's very fast and he's left-handed, which is tough to adjust to. But Judah wasn't any faster than Floyd.
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Originally Posted by Starr
What happened to Oscar's "timing" reason?
Oscar couldn't catch Shane in his prime with thew same holes Vernon Forrest did so how is he out of his prime gonna match Speed with Floyd when Mosley hit him with basic jab jab right hands and he thinks he will?
Oh! no!
The ALL MIGHTY expert/trainer is here. Beware everyone she has the key to success and she knows how to beat everyone. :beat:
It's a known fact that SOME fighters just have someones number. Jr. Jones had MABs number, Vernon had SSMs number thats just the way it goes.
I'm talking about his reflex timing and defense to straight shots. If Mayweather throws hooks he telegraphs then I expect Oscar to catch him. Fact is, even when Oscar was being trained by Floyd Sr he couldn't and still can't seem to avoid jabs or straight right hands.
I would mention the Sturm fight but everyon says Oscar was so out of shape that fight.
Out of shape or not his style is still the same, same holes same weaknesses, he hasn't fixed them.
EVERYBODY seems to have a gameplan for Floyd and it works for a round. But when he adapts they never seem to have a plan B. Hope Roach lets Oscar has a plan B ;)
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Starr
What happened to Oscar's "timing" reason?
EVERYBODY seems to have a gameplan for Floyd and it works for a round. But when he adapts they never seem to have a plan B. Hope Roach lets Oscar has a plan B ;)
everybody knows that roach is not a so so trainer..do you think he only has one plan.. come on..he didnt start training boxers yesterday...and he was a boxer himself.. you see how he made pacman change the gameplan with morales on the second fight and how pac adjusted with solis .. we all saw that pac struggled the first half of those two fights.. its up to oscar to listen to roach or to his mexican machismo ego..
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I have to be hones tguys i rooted for mesoley in their first fight but... oscar fought totally the wrong fight against shane in the first fight, coming off of the incident with tito he decided to attack attack, in the second fight i thought oscar clearly won easily, he cant match floyds speed but he he can come close, and well the differenc eis power