Time - 23:00 - 00:00 (1 hour long)
When - Saturday 5th May on ESPN Classic
Clay V Liston.
1964 - Classic archive action from the fight that 'shook up the world'. Reigning champ Liston faces an arrogant, exuberant opponent in young Cassius Clay.
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Time - 23:00 - 00:00 (1 hour long)
When - Saturday 5th May on ESPN Classic
Clay V Liston.
1964 - Classic archive action from the fight that 'shook up the world'. Reigning champ Liston faces an arrogant, exuberant opponent in young Cassius Clay.
I'll be sure to watch.
Bill?
The bout was a 'choreographed fraud'.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Pre-Fight Backroom Discussions
1 > Sonny needed Money
2 > Sonny had his Boxing License yanked from 47 of the 50 States.
3 > The European Boxing Union had banned Sonny in September 1963.
4 > Sonny's handlers {The Nilon Group} wanted out.
5 > Sonny decided to 'play ball'.
Do not listen to bill's bull. The fight was real. Ali at his best.
In your 3rd sentence, you got the young fella's name wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
It was Cassius Clay on February 25, 1964.
Check the signature on the contract.............. Cassius Clay.
He will always be Muhammad Ali to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill PaxtomIn your 3rd sentence, you got the young fella's name wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
It was Cassius Clay on February 25, 1964.
Check the signature on the contract.............. Cassius Clay.
'Ass-Smoochio'Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe will always be Muhammad Ali to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill PaxtomIn your 3rd sentence, you got the young fella's name wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
It was Cassius Clay on February 25, 1964.
Check the signature on the contract.............. Cassius Clay.
Are you aware, that he was also ........ 'Cassius X'
He will always be Cassius Clay to me......... See below
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Bill is a hard and unforgiving man, but you always know where he stands. That's a good thing.
Thank You Sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
I would like to think that I am 'Fair and Balanced' in my judgment of Mr. Cassius Clay.
I have never said anywhere near the 'bad things' that Cassius Clay had said.
I am, the Scale of Justice.
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Ali legally changed his name. Sure it was Clay then but it is Ali now. Check yourself. Don't correct others when you are continuously erroneous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill PaxtomIn your 3rd sentence, you got the young fella's name wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
It was Cassius Clay on February 25, 1964.
Check the signature on the contract.............. Cassius Clay.
Hold on, you pulled 'a boner' there Mr. Lineal.Quote:
Originally Posted by LinealAli legally changed his name. Sure it was Clay then but it is Ali now. Check yourself. Don't correct others when you are continuously erroneous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill PaxtomIn your 3rd sentence, you got the young fella's name wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
It was Cassius Clay on February 25, 1964.
Check the signature on the contract.............. Cassius Clay.
Cassius Clay started calling himself 'Cassius X' first. Stealing that moniker from Malcolm X.
He never legally changed his name at first.
Make a note of it.
Cassius X is not stealing from Malcolm it was what was done by the group. Just as if someone uses Sugar in boxing does not mean they stole it from Ray Robinson.
Did Ali legally change his name or not? I think you'll find the answer is yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill PaxtomHold on, you pulled 'a boner' there Mr. Lineal.Quote:
Originally Posted by LinealAli legally changed his name. Sure it was Clay then but it is Ali now. Check yourself. Don't correct others when you are continuously erroneous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill PaxtomIn your 3rd sentence, you got the young fella's name wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
It was Cassius Clay on February 25, 1964.
Check the signature on the contract.............. Cassius Clay.
Cassius Clay started calling himself 'Cassius X' first. Stealing that moniker from Malcolm X.
He never legally changed his name at first.
Make a note of it.
His Mother,Quote:
Originally Posted by LinealDid Ali legally change his name or not? I think you'll find the answer is yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill PaxtomHold on, you pulled 'a boner' there Mr. Lineal.Quote:
Originally Posted by LinealAli legally changed his name. Sure it was Clay then but it is Ali now. Check yourself. Don't correct others when you are continuously erroneous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill PaxtomIn your 3rd sentence, you got the young fella's name wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
It was Cassius Clay on February 25, 1964.
Check the signature on the contract.............. Cassius Clay.
Cassius Clay started calling himself 'Cassius X' first. Stealing that moniker from Malcolm X.
He never legally changed his name at first.
Make a note of it.
Who brought Cassius Marcellus Clay Jr. into this World, never accepted it.
That's good enough for me.
Odessa Grady Clay >
"Oh, Cassius has been calling himself all sorts of names since he was little. He wanted to be
Mickey Mantle, then Willie Mays. But he couldn't really play Baseball. He wasn't that good in
Sports, other than Boxing."
"He wanted to be Jack Johnson. Sometimes he wanted to be Jack Dempsey, and other
times it was Floyd Patterson. He always wrote those names on his sweatshirt when he
went to the boxing matches."
"For a while, he was calling himself 'Young Jack Johnson'. I thought that was funny,
because Jack Johnson was really flamboyant, and my son was so reserved and shy."
"But this name changing stuff. Oh it's just a phase to get some publicity. If it doesn't work,
he will come up with another name. But, no matter what, he will always be Cassius to me."