Re: Is ODLH a choke artist?
Oscar is not a choker.
He's a very very good fighter who is not an all-time great fighter.
DLH lost to Mosley, Hopkins, Floyd becuase in all cases his opponent was the better fighter.
He looked horrible in the Sturm fight because he was out of shape.
I thought he lost to Quartey and Whitaker, but there's no shame in that, Quartey was a very good fighter, and Pernell was an all-time great who made every opponent look terrible.
The only fight that Oscar should be criticized for is the Tito fight. He was great for the first 8 or 9 rounds and then horrible at the end.
Re: Is ODLH a choke artist?
He had a close fight with Quartey which he could have won as easily as lost, and a close fight with Whitaker that could have gone either way. Hopkins wasn't the better fighter when they fought only the bigger one. Mosley beat Oscar once, but Oscar beat him once scorecards aside. I agree ODLH was crap against Sturm. He is an ATG, and he fought like it two nights ago.
Re: Is ODLH a choke artist?
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
I'm starting to think that for all of his great boxing skills, Oscar De La Hoya is a choke artist. Granted, he beat Vargas and Mayorga, but those can't really be considered big time wins. He's lost against SSM twice, Tito, B-Hop, and now Floyd Jr. Is ODLH a choke artist?
Against SSM, he got outhustled in the first fight, the second fight could after gone either way and he didn't get lucky. I feel like he should have won the Tito fight but the fact that he just gave away the last three or four rounds is just unheard of and the worst strategy I've ever heard of. He got caught right on the button against B-Hop and he quit. And in the PBF fight, he didn't seemed relaxed, he gassed out against Floyd, simply got outworked in the last four rounds, and he abandoned his jab for some unknown reason. After Oscar said on 24/7 that Floyd would choke under the "bright lights," Floyd came out looking relaxed as ever and executed his gameplan while Oscar looked to stiff and confused at times. Is he boxing's version of the early 90's Buffalo Bills, Alex Rodriguez, or Dirk Nowitski?
He never lost to Mosley ( 2nd fight) or TITO. Yes Oscar's my boy and I hated that shit about him running from Tito BUT he did NOT lose that fight. He also didn't lose to Floyd Jr. In the Sturm fight he did look out of shape and he was very slow!!! You really can't say anything negative about him losing to B-hop, he was boxing very well until the KO.
Re: Is ODLH a choke artist?
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
I'm starting to think that for all of his great boxing skills, Oscar De La Hoya is a choke artist. Granted, he beat Vargas and Mayorga, but those can't really be considered big time wins. He's lost against SSM twice, Tito, B-Hop, and now Floyd Jr. Is ODLH a choke artist?
Against SSM, he got outhustled in the first fight, the second fight could after gone either way and he didn't get lucky. I feel like he should have won the Tito fight but the fact that he just gave away the last three or four rounds is just unheard of and the worst strategy I've ever heard of. He got caught right on the button against B-Hop and he quit. And in the PBF fight, he didn't seemed relaxed, he gassed out against Floyd, simply got outworked in the last four rounds, and he abandoned his jab for some unknown reason. After Oscar said on 24/7 that Floyd would choke under the "bright lights," Floyd came out looking relaxed as ever and executed his gameplan while Oscar looked to stiff and confused at times. Is he boxing's version of the early 90's Buffalo Bills, Alex Rodriguez, or Dirk Nowitski?
CC bro! interesting read! i liked the 90's Bills reference, AR, DN lol. DN is still young he can put it together, especially when he got david hasslehoff on his side ;)
Re: Is ODLH a choke artist?
actually in 24hrs bro KARmA