Roachs thoughts on oSCAR fLOYD.

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So what were Roach's thoughts on De La Hoya's split decision loss to Mayweather after reviewing the fight on tape?

“I know we could've fought a better fight. It was my first fight with Oscar and he was doing very well early in the fight with the jab," he would say. "But then in the middle rounds, for some reason, he crouched down and gave away his height to Mayweather a little bit and he widened his stance and took his jab away from himself. I urged him to get back on his toes and jab. It just wasn't there that night. But I thought Mayweather looked good in rounds nine, ten and eleven, threw some good combinations and so forth. But I think we came back in the 12th. We had a very good round.

"So I thought we had it by a round. But it was a close fight."

Some observers wondered why Roach, who's low-key by nature, wasn't more demonstrative in the corner as the tide changed. Would he be a bit more vocal with Oscar a second time around?

"Possibly, the thing is, obviously when the camera swings to my corner, my instructions are always to take a deep breath to get his wind so he can absorb what I'm saying. So by the time I talk to him, they've gone to the other corner. But maybe I will be a little more forceful, but again, it was my first time with him. I knew him from the gym but working the corner during a fight, it's a whole different experience. Obviously, if we had the luxury of a tune-up fight it would've been great. But we didn't at that time. But I think it'll be much smoother next time around. I'd probably get a little bit louder in the corner and get his attention a little bit."

With the pay-per-view numbers being record setting- procuring over two million subscribers - it almost seems that a rematch is ordained. De La Hoya has had no problems in the past getting rid of trainers after losses, so does Roach expect to wind up in his corner again?

"I think we have a good relationship. I do think I will be back in the corner. Obviously, Floyd Sr. was campaigning for the job after the fight by saying his son lost," Roach said, while laughing. "But me and Oscar do have a good relationship and I tried to contact him yesterday just to see how he's doing. I just left a message for him. I think if he does fight again, we'll be together, I'm sure."

So how did it feel to go up against the greatest fighter of all-time in Mayweather?

"That's pretty funny," said Roach, nearly choking on his own laughter, at the thought. "He's a good little boxer but you can't measure him in the same sentence as those guys (like Ray Robinson and Ray Leonard), c'mon."

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"That's pretty funny," said Roach, nearly choking on his own laughter, at the thought. "He's a good little boxer but you can't measure him in the same sentence as those guys (like Ray Robinson and Ray Leonard), c'mon."

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True, Mayweather was not really good when faced with a better fighter like Dela Hoya. I can't believe that Mayweather is pound for pound #1. I can't even believe he won the fight.He won the fight according to the judges' card but not on the cards of people who watched the fight.

thats good that roach wasnt trying to BS and say he thought oscar clearly won. shows hes not corrupted by golden boy productions...................YET :-\

Like Roach said(“I know we could've fought a better fight)He knows Oscar lsot that fight... PBF!!!!!!!

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Like Roach said(“I know we could've fought a better fight)He knows Oscar lsot that fight... PBF!!!!!!!

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thats my point its not like he was like floyd senior all kissing oscars assssss selling out his own son and claiming his own son lost :-[

I am a huge oscar fan but Oscar for a veteran fighter fought a dumb fight in rounds 9, 10 and 11 he was just walking into floyd's punches. I acknowledge that it was a close fight a draw at best for Oscar, and if a rematch happens it will be worse for oscar since floyd will make the necessary adjustment and Oscar is not getting any younger and even in this fight his reflexes aren't as sharp as they once were, his handspeed isn't what it used to be, he is more flat footed than ever and doesn't move his head at all in the ring. Oscar should fight either the winner of Cotto-Judah or Hatton-Castillo, there is still plenty left in Oscar to defeat either of these match winners but PBF at this stage would be suicide

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I am a huge oscar fan but Oscar for a veteran fighter fought a dumb fight in rounds 9, 10 and 11 he was just walking into floyd's punches. I acknowledge that it was a close fight a draw at best for Oscar, and if a rematch happens it will be worse for oscar since floyd will make the necessary adjustment and Oscar is not getting any younger and even in this fight his reflexes aren't as sharp as they once were, his handspeed isn't what it used to be, he is more flat footed than ever and doesn't move his head at all in the ring. Oscar should fight either the winner of Cotto-Judah or Hatton-Castillo, there is still plenty left in Oscar to defeat either of these match winners but PBF at this stage would be suicide

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CC 83 for the REAL TALK BRO!

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I am a huge oscar fan but Oscar for a veteran fighter fought a dumb fight in rounds 9, 10 and 11 he was just walking into floyd's punches. I acknowledge that it was a close fight a draw at best for Oscar, and if a rematch happens it will be worse for oscar since floyd will make the necessary adjustment and Oscar is not getting any younger and even in this fight his reflexes aren't as sharp as they once were, his handspeed isn't what it used to be, he is more flat footed than ever and doesn't move his head at all in the ring. Oscar should fight either the winner of Cotto-Judah or Hatton-Castillo, there is still plenty left in Oscar to defeat either of these match winners but PBF at this stage would be suicide

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Suicide??? Yeah he may pull his shoulder out of socket from missing a punch, but PBF would just jab him and move away. Don't start with how dangerous Floyd is..... Let me guess he would probably ko him this time around cause he won that exchange the last 5 seconds of the last round.

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I am a huge oscar fan but Oscar for a veteran fighter fought a dumb fight in rounds 9, 10 and 11 he was just walking into floyd's punches. I acknowledge that it was a close fight a draw at best for Oscar, and if a rematch happens it will be worse for oscar since floyd will make the necessary adjustment and Oscar is not getting any younger and even in this fight his reflexes aren't as sharp as they once were, his handspeed isn't what it used to be, he is more flat footed than ever and doesn't move his head at all in the ring. Oscar should fight either the winner of Cotto-Judah or Hatton-Castillo, there is still plenty left in Oscar to defeat either of these match winners but PBF at this stage would be suicide

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Suicide??? Yeah he may pull his shoulder out of socket from missing a punch, but PBF would just jab him and move away. Don't start with how dangerous Floyd is..... Let me guess he would probably ko him this time around cause he won that exchange the last 5 seconds of the last round.

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I didn't mean suicide literally, I meant it figuratively. floyd has been in the ring with oscar already and would know what to expect and although he doesn't have the KO power he has enough smarts and skills to himiliate oscar more thoroughly

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True, Mayweather was not really good when faced with a better fighter like Dela Hoya. I can't believe that Mayweather is pound for pound #1. I can't even believe he won the fight.He won the fight according to the judges' card but not on the cards of people who watched the fight.

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Speak for yourself.

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"That's pretty funny," said Roach, nearly choking on his own laughter, at the thought. "He's a good little boxer but you can't measure him in the same sentence as those guys (like Ray Robinson and Ray Leonard), c'mon."

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True, Mayweather was not really good when faced with a better fighter like Dela Hoya. I can't believe that Mayweather is pound for pound #1. I can't even believe he won the fight.He won the fight according to the judges' card but not on the cards of people who watched the fight.

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When ViolentD was asked not to pounce on newcomers, then that was a flaw....This guy is a tosspot!! ::**

DLH is a smart fighter and could make the adjustments and take it to floyd in a rematch more effectively

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"That's pretty funny," said Roach, nearly choking on his own laughter, at the thought. "He's a good little boxer but you can't measure him in the same sentence as those guys (like Ray Robinson and Ray Leonard), c'mon."

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True, Mayweather was not really good when faced with a better fighter like Dela Hoya. I can't believe that Mayweather is pound for pound #1. I can't even believe he won the fight.He won the fight according to the judges' card but not on the cards of people who watched the fight.

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i watched the fight and i'm currently watching the fight and i thought PBF won. PBF landed the cleaner harder shots thoughout the fight. oscar barley landed anything clean. those combos look good but all they did was make DLH tired because he was missing.

Roach had the right game plan,Oscar could not implement it. He had Oscar throwing bodyshots etc etc so he did well.

roaches gameplan was excellent. oscar did far better than i expected. i think PBF would do better in the rematch. this was his fight against a 154lb fighter. people are gonna jump me for saying this but it gonna be like the castillo fights. the first fight(PBF first fight at 135) was close but the second he clearly won.