came across this ROY JONES VS HOLMES
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the funny thing is people in roys lower weight class could not catch roy with the jab. but the funny thing is your telling me holmes would.
roy was a speed demon. that was faster in his prime then ali or holmes. i feel ali would have a hugh advantage because i feel he was quick enough to it roy. and would have over powered roy he would be stronger.
but i feel if spinks could beat homles then roy would box his head off.
i feel agaisnt fighters that are brawlers like tyson the roy that moved up to heavy would have been knocked out cold
pound for pound
back to ali vs jones
now if we talk pound for pound roy would have had all the advantages over ali. maybe not chin. but roy in his prime never had problems with chin. think of roy jones a natural heavy weight. he would have tyson power in both hands. his speed would be abit slower maybe as fast as ali. who is not slow by any means. he would be a complete beast.
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nah roy's not natural heavy..his bones are too small esp in his wrists...that's why he constantly hurt them from time to time..i think roy's a SMW by nature....and at heavy he would have eaten ali alive with lead left hooks...
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Holmes would beat Jones no doubt in my mind.
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Just reading what there saying makes me more glad i found this forum they talk out there a** and have never watched a Holmes fight or any fight before 1994 it looks like what a joke of a forum that place is.
He would've dominated any MW/SMW at the time(anyone really, including the HW's).
One of if not most stupid comments thats ever been made and im on about hw bit.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEWPBNiEomM
ali vs doug jones
roy jones would have beaten homles
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Just reading what there saying makes me more glad i found this forum they talk out there ass and have never watched a Holmes fight or any fight before 1994 it looks like what a joke of a forum that place is.
well since you didn't state anyone...i always agreed that prime larry easily beats mike tyson...roy would get inside of his jab though...
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Just reading what there saying makes me more glad i found this forum they talk out there a** and have never watched a Holmes fight or any fight before 1994 it looks like what a joke of a forum that place is.
well since you didn't state anyone...i always agreed that prime larry easily beats mike tyson...roy would get inside of his jab though...
Holmes is too tall too big and his reach is too long Jones wouldn't win and would get beat quite handily by 12 round decision.
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Just reading what there saying makes me more glad i found this forum they talk out there a** and have never watched a Holmes fight or any fight before 1994 it looks like what a joke of a forum that place is.
well since you didn't state anyone...i always agreed that prime larry easily beats mike tyson...roy would get inside of his jab though...
Holmes is too tall too big and his reach is too long Jones wouldn't win and would get beat quite handily by 12 round decision.
well i guess we'll never know..
but i think roy's speed would get him inside of larry's jab...
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Have you ever watched a Holmes fight instead of clips ??
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Just reading what there saying makes me more glad i found this forum they talk out there a** and have never watched a Holmes fight or any fight before 1994 it looks like what a joke of a forum that place is.
well since you didn't state anyone...i always agreed that prime larry easily beats mike tyson...roy would get inside of his jab though...
Holmes is too tall too big and his reach is too long Jones wouldn't win and would get beat quite handily by 12 round decision.
well i guess we'll never know..
but i think roy's speed would get him inside of larry's jab...
He would avoid jab but he wouldn't get on inside Holmes is too big this is quite stupid folks Holmes is natural hw and Jones only beat Ruiz im massive fan of both fighters but this match up is ridiculous Holmes would win no doubt and i don't see how anyone could think otherwise ??
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Just reading what there saying makes me more glad i found this forum they talk out there a** and have never watched a Holmes fight or any fight before 1994 it looks like what a joke of a forum that place is.
well since you didn't state anyone...i always agreed that prime larry easily beats mike tyson...roy would get inside of his jab though...
Holmes is too tall too big and his reach is too long Jones wouldn't win and would get beat quite handily by 12 round decision.
well i guess we'll never know..
but i think roy's speed would get him inside of larry's jab...
He would avoid jab but he wouldn't get on inside Holmes is too big this is quite stupid folks Holmes is natural hw and Jones only beat Ruiz im massive fan of both fighters but this match up is ridiculous Holmes would win no doubt and i don't see how anyone could think otherwise ??
the great thing about that is roy is supposed to lose to holmes but i just like the hypothetical discussion because it point to how much better than everyone else roy really was
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An ATG natural heavyweight beats an ATG natural middleweight prime for prime everytime. No exceptions.
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Just reading what there saying makes me more glad i found this forum they talk out there a** and have never watched a Holmes fight or any fight before 1994 it looks like what a joke of a forum that place is.
well since you didn't state anyone...i always agreed that prime larry easily beats mike tyson...roy would get inside of his jab though...
Holmes is too tall too big and his reach is too long Jones wouldn't win and would get beat quite handily by 12 round decision.
well i guess we'll never know..
but i think roy's speed would get him inside of larry's jab...
He would avoid jab but he wouldn't get on inside Holmes is too big this is quite stupid folks Holmes is natural hw and Jones only beat Ruiz im massive fan of both fighters but this match up is ridiculous Holmes would win no doubt and i don't see how anyone could think otherwise ??
the great thing about that is roy is supposed to lose to holmes but i just like the hypothetical discussion because it point to how much better than everyone else roy really was
Roy was exceptional you know i think that im big fan of Jones but he wouldn't beat Holmes no way too many things to overcome.
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Originally Posted by artest2000
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/...ad.php?t=69188
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the funny thing is people in roys lower weight class could not catch roy with the jab. but the funny thing is your telling me holmes would.
roy was a speed demon. that was faster in his prime then ali or holmes. i feel ali would have a hugh advantage because i feel he was quick enough to it roy. and would have over powered roy he would be stronger.
but i feel if spinks could beat homles then roy would box his head off.
i feel agaisnt fighters that are brawlers like tyson the roy that moved up to heavy would have been knocked out cold
pound for pound
back to ali vs jones
now if we talk pound for pound roy would have had all the advantages over ali. maybe not chin. but roy in his prime never had problems with chin. think of roy jones a natural heavy weight. he would have tyson power in both hands. his speed would be abit slower maybe as fast as ali. who is not slow by any means. he would be a complete beast.
Uhh your talking about when Holmes was 35 and 36 against Spinks and still should of won both fights hell if your bringing up fighters past there prime what about Tarver vs Jones ?? and to say he would have Tysons power at hw is ridiculous it really is im sorry but you don't know much about history about boxing nor have you watched enough Holmes for a statement like that you made.
Jones is too small
Jones reach isn't long enough
Jones power wouldn't be enough Holmes took Earnie Shavers best and Cooneys and Nortons
Jones didn't have footwork really and Holmes only ever struggled with someone who danced or gave him alot of movement around ring and Jones never really did
and flatout he is NATURAL MIDDLEWEIGHT THIS IS RIDICULOUS MATCH UP IT REALLY IS.
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http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/...ad.php?t=69188
heres my reply
the funny thing is people in roys lower weight class could not catch roy with the jab. but the funny thing is your telling me holmes would.
roy was a speed demon. that was faster in his prime then ali or holmes. i feel ali would have a hugh advantage because i feel he was quick enough to it roy. and would have over powered roy he would be stronger.
but i feel if spinks could beat homles then roy would box his head off.
i feel agaisnt fighters that are brawlers like tyson the roy that moved up to heavy would have been knocked out cold
pound for pound
back to ali vs jones
now if we talk pound for pound roy would have had all the advantages over ali. maybe not chin. but roy in his prime never had problems with chin. think of roy jones a natural heavy weight. he would have tyson power in both hands. his speed would be abit slower maybe as fast as ali. who is not slow by any means. he would be a complete beast.
Uhh your talking about when Holmes was 35 and 36 against Spinks and still should of won both fights hell if your bringing up fighters past there prime what about Tarver vs Jones ?? and to say he would have Tysons power at hw is ridiculous it really is im sorry but you don't know much about history about boxing nor have you watched enough Holmes for a statement like that you made.
yeah the only way roy would have had tyson's power is if he was taking horse steroids....because roy was a natural SMW at best...
