How highly would Mayweather be rated if he accomplishes the following feat?
1. Defeats Mosely
2. Defeats Margarito
3. Defeats Cotto
All in consecutive order then retires. How high would he be ranked? Can he be a top 5 all time great?
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Umm probably 9th 10th or just below like 11th somewhere round there.
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After that, IMO yes he deserves to be Top 5 All Time. He gets degraded because of that attitude but he's a great fighter. These guys fight great but PBF is a great fighter. ;D
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who else would be left for him to fight? To retire undefeated and to let your last 4 opponents be high quality and potential hall of fame opponents got to count for something.
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I don't know if i would be any further impressed...i already think he's one of the greatest and that he could be everyone on this list easily....
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He'll be rated a lot higher in 20 years time. Every great fighter's legend grows the longer they have been out of the ring.
We talk about guys like Leonard, Hearns and Duran as if they are almost God like but there is no reason to think that if these guys fought today, and against the same fighters as Floyd that they would all be undefeated.
De La Hoya would have proved troublemsome, especially for Duran, Judah also.
Plus all three of these guys were naturally a lot bigger than Floyd who started out as a superfeatherweight.
It's unfair to make direct comparisons between them and him.
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he'd still not probably make top 10..because no matter what any new era fighter does he will never be placed in the top ten...because for some reason nothings ever good enough..whereas the old school fighter get all these excuses and their records and opposition aren't as throughly picked apart like the new guys...
back then amazingly everyone was a contender and a great mark on a champions record,
now its "well he's a bum, he's a bum, oh he won an alphabet belt, he's not a real contender, he was overmatched any way, he didn't belong in the ring, so what he beat an undefeated contender"
floyd would have to beat cotto (but he's too green)
..................................mosley (he's too old)
..............................margarito (he was just a big gatti)
..............................hatton (he was one dimensional,too small)
..............................paul williams (too green and overrated)
..............................winky (too slow and plodding)
.............................bhop( he finally got old)
then floyd loses to one of the klitschkos and its you see I told you he wasn't that great.....floyd couldn't do enough to ever be considered top 10..and top 5 is just insane not because he isn't deserving but just because he's born in an era where the majority is never satisfied...he fight 80 more times and still it wouldn't be enough....
but that's just my opinion..right now i think he's top 20 if he beats mosley @ 147 then i'd put in top 10
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if he beats the guys you stated then top 10 for sure, in my opinion top 5
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I'd love to see Floyd do the following to end out his career:
Fight Spinks, win the Jr. Middleweight Championship.
Then fight Mosley @ 154 in defense of the 154 pound championship. (Mosley would have defeated Clottey coming into the fight).
By then Cotto would be ready to step up to 154 (having beaten Judah, Margarito along the way).
The last fight of Floyds career would be against Kelly Pavlik who would have won the middleweight champion ship by KO from Taylor.
That would be a great career... Ring championships @ lightweight, Welter, Jr. middle & middle.
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Originally Posted by BigMix27
1. Defeats Mosely
2. Defeats Margarito
3. Defeats Cotto
All in consecutive order then retires. How high would he be ranked? Can he be a top 5 all time great?
Lets be honest Margorito and Cotto have beat no one just yet, Cotto has the potential to be a great but only time will tell if he beats these guys but Margorito dpesnt imo do anything for his atg potential.
Also Galaxy fighting Pavlik???????? Do you want to send Floyd to an early grave??
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Originally Posted by BigMix27
1. Defeats Mosely
2. Defeats Margarito
3. Defeats Cotto
All in consecutive order then retires. How high would he be ranked? Can he be a top 5 all time great?
Lets be honest Margorito and Cotto have beat no one just yet, Cotto has the potential to be a great but only time will tell if he beats these guys but Margorito dpesnt imo do anything for his atg potential.
Also Galaxy fighting Pavlik???????? Do you want to send Floyd to an early grave??
Yeah bro, I give him an easier shot at Taylor but can't see Taylor being on top when Floyd would be ready to step up. Remember DLH made it to middle! Just disregard the result.
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Originally Posted by BigMix27
1. Defeats Mosely
2. Defeats Margarito
3. Defeats Cotto
All in consecutive order then retires. How high would he be ranked? Can he be a top 5 all time great?
If he does that and retires undefeated who could argue he isn't at least top 10 all time.
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Originally Posted by BigMix27
1. Defeats Mosely
2. Defeats Margarito
3. Defeats Cotto
All in consecutive order then retires. How high would he be ranked? Can he be a top 5 all time great?
I don't think this would change that much in all honesty. Will people really ever put Floyd above guys like Duran, Benny Leonard, Billy Conn, Ezzard Charles? I doubt beating an old Mosley, and two unknowns in the historical sense will do much to raise his stock. I mean Wright beat Mosley and it much less to enhance his stock then beating Bernard HOpkins will despite Bernard being 43.
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Originally Posted by BigMix27
1. Defeats Mosely
2. Defeats Margarito
3. Defeats Cotto
All in consecutive order then retires. How high would he be ranked? Can he be a top 5 all time great?
I think if he beat Mosley and then moved up and beat the winner of Hopkins/Wright and then beat Taylor he could be top 5 ever. But with those guys I am not sure. Margarito and Cotto are good fighters, but not all timers yet to warrant Mayweather going way up in stature to top 5 ever from beating them. But that would solidify him to being top 20 for sure.
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I still say up until now Mosley is only one that makes a difference, and the winner of Cotto/Judah facing the winner of Margaritto/Williams.