Where Do These Guys Rate?

Virgil Hill,Bobby Czyz

If i understand you right you want us to rank them..

I dont know much of bobby Czyz

But if im fair i rank Virgil Hill pretty highly..

He was pretty big on the light heavyweight scene before he fought Roy Jones and made a success of his career following his fight with roy..

Became a good cruiserweight and a good champion..

Fought some top competition in his time..

Fair play, Props to the guy..He was a good fighter..Probably as good as you get without becoming
great imo..

Imo instead of bieng a guy who was destined for greatness and was an underachiever never to make it huge..

He was probably never meant to be as good as he was and he worked hard to make it for himself and was more of an over achiever!

Peace

Virgil Hill

Beaten:
Bobby Czyz
Fabrice Tiozzo
Henry Maske

3 decent names there among others on his record, I think these 3 are his most impressive scalps

Defeated by:
Thomas Hearns
Roy Jones
Jean-Marc Mormeck
Henry Maske
Darius Michaelewszki

There is no shame in losing to Hearns, Dariusz and Roy Jones
The Maske loss doesnt bode well for him
Mormeck is a talented guy, again there is no shame in losing to him

Virgil Hill is IMO a top 20 cruiserweight of today
He isn't even top 30 light-heavys of all-time
I agree with Tito_BHB that he is a over-acheiver

As for Bobby Czyz he hasnt beaten anyone with a big name and apart from his losses to 'Vander and Sanders all of his losses have been by average guys.

Czyz is just another fighter of this era. His name will mean nothing in 10-15 years time to even some real fans. too forgettable

I don't rate any of them in my top 20 lets put it that way.

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Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw

Virgil Hill

Beaten:
Bobby Czyz
Fabrice Tiozzo
Henry Maske

3 decent names there among others on his record, I think these 3 are his most impressive scalps

Defeated by:
Thomas Hearns
Roy Jones
Jean-Marc Mormeck
Henry Maske
Darius Michaelewszki

There is no shame in losing to Hearns, Dariusz and Roy Jones
The Maske loss doesnt bode well for him
Mormeck is a talented guy, again there is no shame in losing to him

Virgil Hill is IMO a top 20 cruiserweight of today
He isn't even top 30 light-heavys of all-time
I agree with Tito_BHB that he is a over-acheiver

As for Bobby Czyz he hasnt beaten anyone with a big name and apart from his losses to 'Vander and Sanders all of his losses have been by average guys.

Czyz is just another fighter of this era. His name will mean nothing in 10-15 years time to even some real fans. too forgettable

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Virgil is no kid....He was 38 first time he fought mormeck and 40 in the rematch....He defended his WBA LH title 12 times...has only been stopped twicw...Mormeck and Jones...Went 30-0 before his first loss///

Held the cruiserweight title twice......Still competitive at 43......IMO he deserves to be ranked fairly high

I rate Czyz with guys like DeValle. And I rate Hill with guys like Jorge Castro, a step above.