My Top 100 Boxers of All-Time Pound for Pound

A while ago i posted my list of the top 50 fgihters ever which was met with mixed responses. Since then i have acquired more knowledge of past fighters and have decided to give it another crack. Here it is:

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Harry Greb
4. Muhammad Ali
5. Joe Louis
6. Willie Pep
7. Sam Langford
8. Benny Leonard
9. Roberto Duran
10. Sandy Saddler
11. Joe Gans
12. Ezzard Charles
13. Archie Moore
14. Sugar Ray Leonard
15. Jimmy Wilde
16. Eder Jofre
17. Bob Fitzsimmons
18. Mickey Walker
19. Jack Johnson
20. Jack Dempsey
21. Pernell Whitaker
22. Barney Ross
23. Tony Canzoneri
24. Joe Walcott (Barbados)
25. Stanley Ketchal
26. Jimmy McLarnin
27. Charley Burley
28. Gene Tunney
29. Terry McGovern
30. Roy Jones
31. George Foreman
32. Larry Holmes
33. Ike Williams
34. Rocky Marciano
35. Alexis Arguello
36. Marcel Cerdan
37. Marvin Hagler
38. Carlos Monzon
39. Jose Napoles
40. Evander Holyfield
41. Jake LaMotta
42. Tommy Loughran
43. Billy Conn
44. Abe Atell
45. James J. Jeffries
46. Emile Griffith
47. Ruben Olivares
48. Pascual Perez
49. Aaron Pryor
50. Joe Frazier
51. Johnny Dundee
52. Kid McCoy
53. Ted ‘Kid’ Lewis
54. George Dixon
55. Thomas Hearns
56. Maxie Rosenbloom
57. Carlos Zarate
58. Ricardo Lopez
59. Battling Nelson
60. John L. Sullivan
61. Kid Gavilan
62. Willie Ritchie
63. Dick Tiger
64. Pancho Villa
65. Carmen Basilio
66. Packy McFarland
67. Sonny Liston
68. Floyd Patterson
69. Philadelphia Jack O’ Brien
70. James Corbett
71. Tony Zale
72. Bob Foster
73. Tiger Flowers
74. Tommy Ryan
75. Georges Carpentier
76. Bernard Hopkins
77. Joe Jeanette
78. Azumah Nelson
79. Mike McCallum
80. Carlos Ortiz
81. Freddie Welsh
82. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
83. Jimmy Barry
84. Salvador Sanchez
85. Jim Driscoll
86. Fighting Harada
87. Miguel Canto
88. Manuel Ortiz
89. Kid Chocolate
90. ‘Nonpareil’ Jack Dempsey
91. Bob Montgomery
92. Carlos Ortiz
93. Joe Brown
94. Khaosai Galaxy
95. Felix Trinidad
96. Eusebio Pedroza
97. Benny Lynch
98. Harold Johnson
99. Oscar De La Hoya
100. Mike Tyson

Please tell me of your opinions on my list

Azumah Nelson MUST be good. He's in there TWICE.

;)


Good list, tho.

Floyd Mayweather 82 thats abit in my opinion

Floyd Mayweather 82 thats abit high in my opinion

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Azumah Nelson MUST be good. He's in there TWICE.

;)


Good list, tho.

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Thanks for pointing that out i've changed it now

Have my doubts that Gentelman Jim should be that high on the list
He was an inovator to be sure,but two losses to Jeffries should push him down,not to mention the loss to Sharkey

For a while I argued with Taeth about older fighters, but in a way I kind of agree with him, I think we do place older fighters on a pedestal. A fighter actually gets better the longer they've been retired. For me, Mayweather, Hopkins, even De La Hoya who I can't stand, are way too low on the list. Mayweather, whether you like or him not, is a rare talent. You just can't convince me that Sonny Liston should be ranked ahead of guys like Mayweather and Hopkins. Not in a million years. But opinions are opinions, I couldn't even come up with a top 100 list if I tried so CC. Interesting list overall.

I think Mayweather should be top 20 he is 5 weight champ and has beaten every divisions number 1 aswell as other good fighters.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

For a while I argued with Taeth about older fighters, but in a way I kind of agree with him, I think we do place older fighters on a pedestal . A fighter actually gets better the longer they've been retired. For me, Mayweather, Hopkins, even De La Hoya who I can't stand, are way too low on the list. Mayweather, whether you like or him not, is a rare talent. You just can't convince me that Sonny Liston should be ranked ahead of guys like Mayweather and Hopkins. Not in a million years. But opinions are opinions, I couldn't even come up with a top 100 list if I tried so CC. Interesting list overall.

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CC.... totally agreed with what you said. We DO seem to place older fighters on a pedestal. I'd also like to add the following: I also agree that coming up with any kind of top 100 p4p list is no easy task. I know I couldn't do it. But I do think that all top p4p lists that I've seen tend to favor one nationality or region. I've yet to see a list that treats all parts of the world equally. If it's a British poster, the list is chock-full of British fighters. If he's from the U.S., same there. For once I'd like to see a list that treats all countries equally, for there has been incredible talent come out of other countries, as well.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

For a while I argued with Taeth about older fighters, but in a way I kind of agree with him, I think we do place older fighters on a pedestal . A fighter actually gets better the longer they've been retired. For me, Mayweather, Hopkins, even De La Hoya who I can't stand, are way too low on the list. Mayweather, whether you like or him not, is a rare talent. You just can't convince me that Sonny Liston should be ranked ahead of guys like Mayweather and Hopkins. Not in a million years. But opinions are opinions, I couldn't even come up with a top 100 list if I tried so CC. Interesting list overall.

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CC.... totally agreed with what you said. We DO seem to place older fighters on a pedestal. I'd also like to add the following: I also agree that coming up with any kind of top 100 p4p list is no easy task. I know I couldn't do it. But I do think that all top p4p lists that I've seen tend to favor one nationality or region. I've yet to see a list that treats all parts of the world equally. If it's a British poster, the list is chock-full of British fighters. If he's from the U.S., same there. For once I'd like to see a list that treats all countries equally, for there has been incredible talent come out of other countries, as well.

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if that is true, which nationality does my list favour ??

Your list fucking sucks. Where the fuck are Julio Cesar Chavez, Wilfredo Gomez, Terry Norris at? Erik Morales? Marco Antonio Barrera? Edwin Rosario?

Cool Click, Shaw

A top 100 is a daunting task for most of us and you deserve props for putting yours out there for all to see. Who can scoff at an effort that many (including myself) would never attempt?

You're list looks good to me.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Your list F****** sucks. Where the F*** are Julio Cesar Chavez, Wilfredo Gomez, Terry Norris at? Erik Morales? Marco Antonio Barrera? Edwin Rosario?

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Yeah, Chavez should be there.


Pay no mind to that Morales tirade, Shaw. Kid Diamond would be a better addition. hehe

Emile Griffith should be closed towards the top 20 not in the 30's.

Good list though. Hats off for making it ;D

Ok, here is my question to all you people who make these top p4p lists. How can you guys rank guys like Henry Armstrong, Sandy Saddler, Willie Pep, ect ect ect, SO HIGH when you may have seen only 2 or 3 of their fights (or, in many cases, none at all). What is the justification for having these guys so high? Do you rank them based on online and newspaper articles written about them? I don't understand it really...