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It has been proved that Holyfield bought human growth hormone and testosterone recently but you have to cast a suspicious eye over his relationship with Lee Haney while he was trying to become a heavyweight, I believe evander has unscrupulously used religion to blindside the public to his misdemeanours.
Its about time every single fighter was tested as its becoming more frequent that top fighters are getting found out, Jones jr, Mosely, Toneym and Holyfield
I'm sure Lee Haney NEVER used steroids. He won all of his Mr Olympia titles through hard work and great genetics, same as Arnold >:madQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
Im sorry but HGH has some serious side effects, and holyfield doesnt seem to have them..Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Look at barry bonds, look at his head from when he came into the MLB and now..the size of his Dome has almost doubled. Holyfield has been the same size from the cruiser days to now (bone structure).
Wheres your proof besides hearsay?
I think at times holyfield juiced bowe holy 2 for 1 he was diesel in that fight but... evander never approached the 225-230 mark hell guys on juice (um ibeabuchi.. 240...) with evanders frame are well over 230 so its a tough call evander was big borderlining being drug free or steroids its tough.. roy jones however physically showed many sighns of steroid use sunken cheaks and some other tell tale sighns usually assocaited with roid use, steroids make a great fighter like someone like roy seem supernatural, it just sucks ther eis no honor in competing anymore..
It has been proved? Proved by who, and how?
Also guys if you consider roids cheating athletic sports is bascially cheating as top level athletes all use em football is rampant, boxing, mma, hell baseball for christ sake people knock a rod but at least he is natural...
Roids and HGH are totally different substances
And yes,Evander has been named on a probe for mail order HGH
Deal with it
IMO, having seen a lot of atheletes on various steriods and HGH it's pretty obvious (again my opinion) that Evander has used Steriods and IS using at least HGH...I will say with a high degree of confidence that MANY heavies today are using HGH as it helps muscle recovery, metabolize fat, thicken skin and improve reflexes in older atheletes ...As far as steriods it's pretty good bet that Evander used them at pretty heavy doses moving into the heavyweight division ...one telling signal is that a blood test given to someone using anabolic steriods for instance with show enzyme levels out of whack as someone that may have a "severe" heart disease, sound familiar?
While steriods are easily tested for HGH is nearly impossible to be detected, thus the abuse...
still waiting for this evidence.
Hey now, it wasn't illegal until they made a rule about it.....so Arnold is in the clear IMO....same with McGwire and Canseco, they aren't good people but they didn't break rules until the rules were put in place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Id think "Against the Law" would imply "against the rules"Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
What, baseball has to enact a "no shooting people" rule?
Most of them are drug "cheats" who have never been caught. Don't pick on ben johnson. He is one of many.
CC spot on ... this topic is pure bullocks ! pure bullshit speculation. Evander has passed every test administered to him. There is always a snuff queen comes out of the wood works with bogus accusations like this,, have a Sad click on me Ross ! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
they have nothing on Evander. Just pure bullocks .. speculation is all they have . using high profile names to try and put mustard on a sandwich they aint even made . a shame they come out and ruin a mans name and reputation with reckless accusation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Big fan of Arnold, so I watched one of his biography's. Hate to say it but he admitted to steroids.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo