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BOXING'S longest-reigning world champion, Joe Calzaghe, would rather move weight divisions than accept a fight against Anthony Mundine, whom he considers "not a real world champion
No doubt Mundine will now say Joe is dodging him. But Joe is right. Mundine offers him zip.
This super champion stuff is a load of crap... how many 'champions' can the wba have fighting for them with it?
can only one hold the wba super champion belt and one hold the regular wba belt? or could the fighter who got the hand me down wba belt also become 'super champion' and give his belt away to somebody else? and so forth and so forth? :P
My guess is that if Mundine fought Kessler and beat him then the two would swap titles, Kessler would become the new WBA world champ and Mundine the new WBA super world champ. If Kessler beat Mundine they would probably both retain their titles making this officially the most farcical fight in the history of boxing :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Kind of ironic how you think that Tarver and Woods would fall over themselves trying to come to the US to fight Green who holds no titles and lost by a landslide to Mundine whilst Calzaghe wouldn't be interested in a fight with Mundine who holds a world title (albiet a ridiculous one) and is generally seen as the number 3 fighter in the divisionQuote:
Originally Posted by Big Jack
Interesting. You see the WBA hand out a 'Super' belt to anyone who has unified in the division to give them more oppertunity to keep both belts and more time to avoid the mandatory. WBA's site says the idea was Lennox Lewis' idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
You make a good point though. If Mundine were to unify with Berrio, then he'd become a 'Super' Champion and vacate the normal WBA belt. So then the WBA would have 2 super champions, a normal champion, an interim champion, and international champion...I could go on.
My point is...that is F****** stupid.
The right words dont often find their way out of Calzaghes mouth, this time they have. Mundine is a waste of time for Calzaghe and Kessler
Calzaghe-Mundine would never happen anyway.
Mundine would have to come to Britain, which means he would want serious dough but he aint worth two bob.
Good point well made, by you and Calzaghe. However, I imagine that chum112 will still, in 20 years time, be sitting at the end of a bar somewhere in Australia muttering into his pint that Calzaghe was a no-good bum who ducked Mundine for years. And he might have something.... :Sarcasm:Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
dont forget about interims ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
This makes perfect sense to me.
As harsh as JC sounds,it's true. I'm a Mundine fan but he needs to get some bigger fights,make himself more marketable/fight bigger names. He has had his easy fight with Nievas,now let's see a fight with a dangerous opponent.
I have a different take on this, I'm no Mundine fan but he is No.3 in the rankings and both Calzaghe and Kessler should pull their heads in and not get ahead of themselves with talk of huge fights in America.
Neither of these guys have seen fit to seek fights in the US before so why should they be granted that opportunity now and against who? A mid 40 year old Hopkins ? Come on, stop yanking my chain i do a perfectly good job of doing that myself.
If Mundine keeps winning and is ranked as the next best contender then Calzaghe or Kessler can shut him up and put him out of the picture by taking the fight.
Kessler had trouble with Mundine, i had it 115-113 for Kessler so that's close. Forget that idiot who had it a shut out it, i was there too! What i saw was a frustrated Kessler who did well to win and did win but Mundine gave him fits.
I don't think Mundine can beat Calzaghe or Kessler again but if he deserves the shot then he should get it!
Well he dominated Danny Green and KTFO Sam Soliman so I'd say he's on a roll.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
He's definitely number 3 in the division right now.
He's the kind of fighter that Joe and all the other champions would want to avoid. Went the distance with Kessler whilst still a relative notive.
He's much better now.
the belt mundine holds is fucking bullshit and asfar as i am conerserneced he should feel fucking discared looking him self in te mirror with that belt...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Kessler beat him for the wba..
when kessler took the wbc he became the wba super champ
ie it meant the wba could have 2 belts and 2 munies.. mundie holds the inter contenetal bullshit worthless belt untill he wins the super berlt.. i hate the super belt idea... but whislt its here the "regulrar" belt is sumin i wudnt wipe my ass with... munsdine (after joe beates kessler) is 100% worthless to calzaghe...