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I don't know if it was the pressure of the ESPN headliner like Atlas said or the fact Rivera just knew enough to frustrate him but I was not impressed with Berto tonight....
All he did was headhunt and looked gassed out come round 9......I hope this was a good learning experience for him or he will fizzle out soon....Anyone see a smaller version of Jeff Lacey here?
I thought his defense looked horrible. Plus getting dropped by Rivera. I wasn't impressed
The two hot prospects, not looking to clever right now Berto and Kahn have some work to do.
Nothing to the body,and when he had him hurt he didnt have the power to finish
Not impressed at all,it was a workmanlike performance
I think you guys are being harsh. I've yet to see the fight,which watch it later but remember,Rivera is a rugged tough fighter who gave another prospect,Joel Julio all he could handle. Minus the knockdown,Berto won easily,didn't he? He's still young and learning,although I've heard he was telegraphing his punches? Were you guys not impressed by his offensive arsenal? he's facing David Estrada next.
Well put. People do like to spank the prospects as soon as they face a stiff barney.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
Remember Ali got decked by Banks, Tyson only beat Tillis cos of the knockdown and many other good & great fighters had to pass the litmus test. He got decked by an experienced campaigner who has beaten fighters with a combined 90-7 in 4 of his last 5 wins - and knocked out three of those.
I am watching the fight and I agree,Berto was not impressive but you have to remember,this is a jump in class. Also,I think the cameras,the desire to impress made him over eager and so did Rivera holding on the inside,not letting him work. His jab was excellent when he used it and he has good handspeed and power.
On the other hand,there were flaws. The knockdown brings up question marks over his chin and concentration. I thought it was more than a flash knockdown and the long ass break in between rounds tells me may be he was bothered by it. I'd love to ahve seen what would have happened had the knockdown happened earlier.
I would love to see Berto v Quintana,his movement seems really robotic. He reminds me a bit of Lacy,good power etc but some chinks. He's still youg though and can iron them out. I'd also love to see him v someone who can bang,Joel Julio maybe? I want to see his chin checked.
Not a bad perfomance but far from brilliant imo. And let's not forget,Zab Judah,a blwon up WW blew out Rivera in 4 rounds I think.
Andre Berto is just another US hype job.
Berto won every round easy except for the flash knockdown ,if you saw the fight you know he wasnt hurt. All I can say if he is not a good youg prospect who is?? I mean really name a young up and commer that you think is good if Berto is not????
BTW ,Im Berto's promoter he just dosent know it because he dosent pay me. ;D ;D ;D
The ref sure was taking his sweet time while counting. I seen this fight being ready made to fix from then on. Had the fight turned, they still would have gave that fight to Berto, just like they did with Kid Diamond. Berto does have a suspect chin. My boy Cotto's chin is a lot better than that ;D
I don't know if Berto was all that hurt but it's kind of odd that the glove happen to tear just in that instance ??? Right out of the Dundee play book ;D I hate to dissapoint everyone but Zab Judah would tear Berto's head off with the sneaky upper cut and thus, Berto is not all that I thought he was. Sorry. I still like the kid.
Cant Blame Burto because of his corners tricks.He wanted to ritght back out if you were looking ,he kept pulling away.He wasnt hurt .Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
Its funny nobody wants to go out on a limb and suport the young untested guys. All I hear is I like Gayweather ,Oscar Delaloser , and Cotto (I cant think of anything with Cotto's name) plus I like him. Heck people still wont shut up about Tyson , good grief that era has been over for a long time.
Ok, well next time I will start a thread about how great Peter Manfredo Jr. is just for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Landon
I did not say that I did not like Berto, I just said, I thought he was more of a dustruction machine than he actually is. Cotto would eat him up. Will you argue that?
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
I heard about the glove and it does sound dodgy.
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
I always wonder how knockout guys like Berto respond when they can't get somebody out. And I wasn't too impressed with what he did last night. Why do some of these power punchers turn into just head hunters, Berto's trainers should show him film of JCC and how he went to the body at least once with almost every combo. About his chin, it better not be a huge problem cause he's not unhittable by any means.
Not like he's a bum now, I still think he's a better prospect than Julio for example, but he needs some work. If he's fighting David Estrada next than Estrada's a very live underdog.