90s Welterweights vs 2000 Welterweights

As we are fresh in one of the best welterwaight eras in recent history in what is one of the best divisions in boxing history with consistantly great fights and excelent and talented boxers there have been some debates of how todays welterweights compare to the 90s and I got an idea rolling around in my head. I have seen some threads talking about different match ups that led to excelent debates. I also loved the tournaments opened up for the current welterweights as well as the greatest heavy weights.

So I intend to make a tournament between 90s wws and 2000s wws. I intend to open up some polls (Not poles LOL) on the different match ups shortly after this thread. First I wanted to decide the matchups and the fighters that will be involved. Perhaps you guys can help me with this. I will probbably just include champions and some major contenders. The contenders will probably be for the 90s wws as the 90 had long reigning champions and the 2000s belts changed hands more freaquently than dollar bills.


90s Welterweights

Simon Brown
Maurice Blocker
Buddy McGirt
Pernel Whitaker
Ike Quartey
Felix Trinidad
Oscar De la Hoya
Jose Luis Lopez
James Page
Oba Carr
Yori Boy Campas

2000s Welterweights

Andrew Lewis
Ricardo Mayorga
Cory Spinks
Zab Judah
Luis Collazo
Ricky Hatton
Miguel Angel Cotto
Shane Mosley
Vernon Forrest
Carlos Baldomir
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Kermit Cintron
Antonio Margarito

I really want to get rid of some of these names and would like to know your opinion. I would like to have 8 representatives from each era.

So who goes and who stays?

CCs for all who help out on this part.

90s: Whitaker, Quartey, Trinidad, De La Hoya

2000s: Cotto, Mosley, Mayweather, Judah

In my eyes those are really the ones that matter. I honestly don't think I see anyone from the 90s beating Mayweather though.

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Originally Posted by caleoh12

90s: Whitaker, Quartey, Trinidad, De La Hoya

2000s: Cotto, Mosley, Mayweather, Judah

In my eyes those are really the ones that matter. I honestly don't think I see anyone from the 90s beating Mayweather though.

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We shall see.

I want to point out that you should consider the best ww version of the fighter. So, for example, that means early 90s Whitaker not late 90s, past his prime cracked up Whitaker. Also it should be the Welterweight version not the Lightweight or Middleweight version.

If possible, at least 8 from each era would be nice.

And CC for help. Defenately the names you mentioned are in.

Now that I think about it, this would probably work better as a round robbin with each win counting for your era. But that would be way too long so lets just do a tournament.

For now I am thinking

90s
Whitaker
Trinidad
Quartey
De la Hoya
Lopez
McGirt
Page
Blocker

(Would like to have Campas or Carr there. Two of the best contenders never to get a ww belt)

2000s
Mosley
Cotto
Williams
Mayorga
Spinks
Forrest
Mayweather

(Removed Hatton for not yet establishing himself as a force at ww. Same for Cintron.)

I still have a spot open for the 2000s. Who should it be?

Judah, Margarito, Baldomir, Cintron, Collazo, Hatton????

What do you guys think?

The last one should be either, Judah, Hatton, or Cintron. I personally think it should be Hatton, and that Mayorga should be taken off for Judah.

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Originally Posted by Slacker

The last one should be either, Judah, Hatton, or Cintron. I personally think it should be Hatton, and that Mayorga should be taken off for Judah.

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I think slacker nailed it.me personally would also remove mayorga,add judah and hatton.I'll say ahead of time,Im A Margarito fan.Bias aside IThink Its wayToo Early for Paul williams To Go On Top list All Decade.He Got The Better Of MArgarito.If Looking at The extended picture Of A fighters Past,present,and Near Future.the Outcome Stands but I Think Margarito Overall is Top Eight.Call Me Nuts,But I Do Not See williams having The staying Power To stay Long Term as Champ.Skills abound No Doubt ,Thats Not ENough These Days

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Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan

As we are fresh in one of the best welterwaight eras in recent history in what is one of the best divisions in boxing history with consistantly great fights and excelent and talented boxers there have been some debates of how todays welterweights compare to the 90s and I got an idea rolling around in my head. I have seen some threads talking about different match ups that led to excelent debates. I also loved the tournaments opened up for the current welterweights as well as the greatest heavy weights.

So I intend to make a tournament between 90s wws and 2000s wws. I intend to open up some polls (Not poles LOL) on the different match ups shortly after this thread. First I wanted to decide the matchups and the fighters that will be involved. Perhaps you guys can help me with this. I will probbably just include champions and some major contenders. The contenders will probably be for the 90s wws as the 90 had long reigning champions and the 2000s belts changed hands more freaquently than dollar bills.


90s Welterweights

Simon Brown
Maurice Blocker
Buddy McGirt
Pernel Whitaker
Ike Quartey
Felix Trinidad
Oscar De la Hoya
Jose Luis Lopez
James Page
Oba Carr
Yori Boy Campas

2000s Welterweights

Andrew Lewis
Ricardo Mayorga
Cory Spinks
Zab Judah
Luis Collazo
Ricky Hatton
Miguel Angel Cotto
Shane Mosley
Vernon Forrest
Carlos Baldomir
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Kermit Cintron
Antonio Margarito

I really want to get rid of some of these names and would like to know your opinion. I would like to have 8 representatives from each era.

So who goes and who stays?

CCs for all who help out on this part.

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Im picking imo 8 of the best fighters from both groups.

Pernell Whitaker
Ike Quartey
Felix Trinidad
Oscar De la Hoya
Maurice Blocker
Buddy McGirt
Yori Boy Campas
Oba Carr


Miguel Angel Cotto
Shane Mosley
Vernon Forrest
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Antonio Margarito
Cory Spinks
Zab Judah
Luis Collazo


I think this is pretty even to be honest it could go either it depends on who fought who because styles make fights i had a look and done some match ups in my head and i had it dead even so its very close i think Tito, Oscar, Whitaker, Quartey, would be very tough to be i think Mayweather would atleast beat 3 out of the 4 names i just mentioned but like i said it all depends on who fought who.


Actually just thinking about it Margarito, Collazo, Judah, would be the weakest links for 2000s and thinking about it more i think 90s tops 2000s.

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Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan

As we are fresh in one of the best welterwaight eras in recent history in what is one of the best divisions in boxing history with consistantly great fights and excelent and talented boxers there have been some debates of how todays welterweights compare to the 90s and I got an idea rolling around in my head. I have seen some threads talking about different match ups that led to excelent debates. I also loved the tournaments opened up for the current welterweights as well as the greatest heavy weights.

So I intend to make a tournament between 90s wws and 2000s wws. I intend to open up some polls (Not poles LOL) on the different match ups shortly after this thread. First I wanted to decide the matchups and the fighters that will be involved. Perhaps you guys can help me with this. I will probbably just include champions and some major contenders. The contenders will probably be for the 90s wws as the 90 had long reigning champions and the 2000s belts changed hands more freaquently than dollar bills.


90s Welterweights

Simon Brown
Maurice Blocker
Buddy McGirt
Pernel Whitaker
Ike Quartey
Felix Trinidad
Oscar De la Hoya
Jose Luis Lopez
James Page
Oba Carr
Yori Boy Campas

2000s Welterweights

Andrew Lewis
Ricardo Mayorga
Cory Spinks
Zab Judah
Luis Collazo
Ricky Hatton
Miguel Angel Cotto
Shane Mosley
Vernon Forrest
Carlos Baldomir
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Kermit Cintron
Antonio Margarito

I really want to get rid of some of these names and would like to know your opinion. I would like to have 8 representatives from each era.

So who goes and who stays?

CCs for all who help out on this part.

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for me the best of 90s welterweight should be in this order the best of 2000s has to be
Whitaker Mayweather
De la hoya Mosley
Trinidad Forrest
Quartey Judah

I give prime whitaker and prime de la hoya a real good chance at beating floyd

I know that his peak/prime was pretty short and he seriously tailed of later in his career, but I would LOVE to have seen Prime Don Curry from the '80s against today's Floyd at Welter.

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

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Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan

As we are fresh in one of the best welterwaight eras in recent history in what is one of the best divisions in boxing history with consistantly great fights and excelent and talented boxers there have been some debates of how todays welterweights compare to the 90s and I got an idea rolling around in my head. I have seen some threads talking about different match ups that led to excelent debates. I also loved the tournaments opened up for the current welterweights as well as the greatest heavy weights.

So I intend to make a tournament between 90s wws and 2000s wws. I intend to open up some polls (Not poles LOL) on the different match ups shortly after this thread. First I wanted to decide the matchups and the fighters that will be involved. Perhaps you guys can help me with this. I will probbably just include champions and some major contenders. The contenders will probably be for the 90s wws as the 90 had long reigning champions and the 2000s belts changed hands more freaquently than dollar bills.


90s Welterweights

Simon Brown
Maurice Blocker
Buddy McGirt
Pernel Whitaker
Ike Quartey
Felix Trinidad
Oscar De la Hoya
Jose Luis Lopez
James Page
Oba Carr
Yori Boy Campas

2000s Welterweights

Andrew Lewis
Ricardo Mayorga
Cory Spinks
Zab Judah
Luis Collazo
Ricky Hatton
Miguel Angel Cotto
Shane Mosley
Vernon Forrest
Carlos Baldomir
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Kermit Cintron
Antonio Margarito

I really want to get rid of some of these names and would like to know your opinion. I would like to have 8 representatives from each era.

So who goes and who stays?

CCs for all who help out on this part.

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Im picking imo 8 of the best fighters from both groups.

Pernell Whitaker
Ike Quartey
Felix Trinidad
Oscar De la Hoya
Maurice Blocker
Buddy McGirt
Yori Boy Campas
Oba Carr


Miguel Angel Cotto
Shane Mosley
Vernon Forrest
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Antonio Margarito
Cory Spinks
Zab Judah
Luis Collazo


I think this is pretty even to be honest it could go either it depends on who fought who because styles make fights i had a look and done some match ups in my head and i had it dead even so its very close i think Tito, Oscar, Whitaker, Quartey, would be very tough to be i think Mayweather would atleast beat 3 out of the 4 names i just mentioned but like i said it all depends on who fought who.


Actually just thinking about it Margarito, Collazo, Judah, would be the weakest links for 2000s and thinking about it more i think 90s tops 2000s.

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This one lookas pretty good for me.

I'm going with your 90s picks but I will remove Blocker and put Lopez. He could do some damage IMHO.

OK by popular opinion. Mayorga and Williams out

Judah, Margarito and Hatton in.

So Finally we have

90s
Whitaker
Quartey
Trinidad
De la Hoya
Lopez
Carr
Campas
McGirt

2000s
Cotto
Mosley
Margarito
Maywether
Hatton
Judah
Forrest
Spinks


Sorry for Collazo, Williams Cintron, Mayorga fans. Personally I think WW version of Mayorga was a force to be reccon with but the people have spoken.

Gave all of you a round of CCs. Thanks for your help.

Now how to group them.....

I'll get back to you on this.

OK here are the matchups for the 90s vs 2000s Welterweights

Round 1
Whitaker vs Spinks

Judah vs Quartey

Lopez vs Hatton

Campas vs Cotto

Maywether vs McGirt

Trinidad vs Margarito

De la Hoya vs Forrest (Great match here)

Mosley vs Carr

Some Mismatches, some interesting matchups and at least one nail biter. This is a spetial tournament and I will switch them up to alwais have 90s vs 2000s unless one era wins more and in that case Fighters from the same era will have to fight to decide who gets to represent them in the next round.

Stay tuned to my posts coming shortly.


Let the games begin!!!!!