If Barrera can pull off a great upset next weekend......

does he cement his place as the 2nd greatest Mexican fighter ever??

I'm a diehard Morales fan, so it's always been hard for me to root for Barrera, but if he can pull this off, all boxing fans would have to give him his due.

But exactly how high in the all-time rankings would a win over Pac put him?

i'm a pacman fan (if not, the biggest pac fan here). If Barrera wins over Pacquaio, he will definitely be the greatest mexican boxer for me.

I'll definitely put Barrera ahead of Marquez and Morales if he beats PAC.
MAB beat Morales 2x and IMO MAB beat Marquez so if he beats PAC this saturday he definitely edges both JMM and Morales.

There's too many great Mexican fighters out there for Barrera to be called the greatest. But he's without a doubt up there.

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

does he cement his place as the 2nd greatest Mexican fighter ever??

I'm a diehard Morales fan, so it's always been hard for me to root for Barrera, but if he can pull this off, all boxing fans would have to give him his due.

But exactly how high in the all-time rankings would a win over Pac put him?

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Who do u have at number 1?

OK, obviously JCC is number 1. I don't think there is really an argument.

I think the second is up in the air.

Very good topic, and with my limited range of knowledge on the particular subject, I'm pretty much limiting this to Morales' career versus Barrera's because I would think those two would be vying for the second spot.

I'm sure there are plenty of other P4P talents but I'm don't think there are any that have the career resumes of those 3.

So with that being said, if Barrera can pull off the victory then I think he is probably the second greatest Mexican fighter of all time.

Greatness, in my eyes, is measured more when you're an underdog then it is when you are supposed to win. Everyone knows Ali was great when he was in prime form before his exile but his greatest performances came when the odds were stacked against him versus Liston, Foreman and Frazier. That is the mark of a great fighter.

This would be the third or fourth complete resurrection of Marco Antonio Barrera. The guy just never goes away and for whatever reason, people continue to write him off almost like he isn't a great fighter. They did the same to Ali. Not a lot of other guys get that treatment.

Outside of Mayweather, Pacquiao could be the hottest fighter in the world. The general opinion is that Barrera really doesn't have a chance. Why is it that way? Not really sure but that's what most feel and a lot of people even have a lack of enthusiasm about this fight.

No idea why. I would put money on Barrera at this point. He's been in this position way to many times to come up lame on Saturday.

Good topic CC.

if he does beat pacquiao ill put him in the top 5

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Originally Posted by amat

OK, obviously JCC is number 1. I don't think there is really an argument.

I think the second is up in the air.

Very good topic, and with my limited range of knowledge on the particular subject, I'm pretty much limiting this to Morales' career versus Barrera's because I would think those two would be vying for the second spot.

I'm sure there are plenty of other P4P talents but I'm don't think there are any that have the career resumes of those 3.

So with that being said, if Barrera can pull off the victory then I think he is probably the second greatest Mexican fighter of all time.

Greatness, in my eyes, is measured more when you're an underdog then it is when you are supposed to win. Everyone knows Ali was great when he was in prime form before his exile but his greatest performances came when the odds were stacked against him versus Liston, Foreman and Frazier. That is the mark of a great fighter.

This would be the third or fourth complete resurrection of Marco Antonio Barrera. The guy just never goes away and for whatever reason, people continue to write him off almost like he isn't a great fighter. They did the same to Ali. Not a lot of other guys get that treatment.

Outside of Mayweather, Pacquiao could be the hottest fighter in the world. The general opinion is that Barrera really doesn't have a chance. Why is it that way? Not really sure but that's what most feel and a lot of people even have a lack of enthusiasm about this fight.

No idea why. I would put money on Barrera at this point. He's been in this position way to many times to come up lame on Saturday.

Good topic CC.

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JCC obviously number 1? Dunno about that. Salvador Sanchez was my pick...... Many feel JCC's record is a little padded and that he got some gift decisions.

Sanchez was a great fighter and obviously a P4P talent. But his career resume wasn't as great as Chavez'. Of course that is a touchy subject because of the nature of his untimely death and all that untapped potential but that's the way things are. I'll leave that one alone though because I don't want to disrespect Sanchez who could have been one of the most talented guys in the lower weights ever.

JCC is number 1,end of. Look at the guys he beat.And stayed unbeaten. Sure,he beat alot of cans,but if you look at the records of all legends with that many wins,they all have alot of cans at the begninning. Forget that.Lokk at the number of quality names,champions,past,present and future.

IF MAB beats Pac,he'll be top5 for sure. I don't envisage him going above Sal Sanchez nor JCC.

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Originally Posted by amat

OK, obviously JCC is number 1. I don't think there is really an argument.

I think the second is up in the air.

Very good topic, and with my limited range of knowledge on the particular subject, I'm pretty much limiting this to Morales' career versus Barrera's because I would think those two would be vying for the second spot.

I'm sure there are plenty of other P4P talents but I'm don't think there are any that have the career resumes of those 3.

So with that being said, if Barrera can pull off the victory then I think he is probably the second greatest Mexican fighter of all time.

Greatness, in my eyes, is measured more when you're an underdog then it is when you are supposed to win. Everyone knows Ali was great when he was in prime form before his exile but his greatest performances came when the odds were stacked against him versus Liston, Foreman and Frazier. That is the mark of a great fighter.

This would be the third or fourth complete resurrection of Marco Antonio Barrera. The guy just never goes away and for whatever reason, people continue to write him off almost like he isn't a great fighter. They did the same to Ali. Not a lot of other guys get that treatment.

Outside of Mayweather, Pacquiao could be the hottest fighter in the world. The general opinion is that Barrera really doesn't have a chance. Why is it that way? Not really sure but that's what most feel and a lot of people even have a lack of enthusiasm about this fight.

No idea why. I would put money on Barrera at this point. He's been in this position way to many times to come up lame on Saturday.

Good topic CC.

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JCC obviously number 1? Dunno about that. Salvador Sanchez was my pick...... Many feel JCC's record is a little padded and that he got some gift decisions.

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Juan La Porte was robbed against Chavez that should of been his first loss.

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

does he cement his place as the 2nd greatest Mexican fighter ever??

I'm a diehard Morales fan, so it's always been hard for me to root for Barrera, but if he can pull this off, all boxing fans would have to give him his due.

But exactly how high in the all-time rankings would a win over Pac put him?

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Who do u have at number 1?

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Chavez #1. He's certainly considered by the people of Mexico to be the greatest Mexican fighter ever.

FWIW, I thought Morales beat MAB in the first two of their fights. But if MAb wins this weekend at this advanced age, I'd have to rank his career above Morales'.

For the purposes of this thread, I'm talking about career accomplishment, so IMO, Sanchez isn't really part of the discussion, since his career was cut short so soon.

If MAB beats Pacman then pigs will fly ;D ;D ;D

If When Barrera beats Pac he will go down as the greatest Mexican fighter ever ! No doubt

Nobody has come back as good as he has , he was written off 10 years ago after Jones so if he beats the p4p number 1 when he is past his best , he eclipses everyone .

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Originally Posted by GAME

If When Barrera beats Pac he will go down as the greatest Mexican fighter ever ! No doubt

Nobody has come back as good as he has , he was written off 10 years ago after Jones so if he beats the p4p number 1 when he is past his best , he eclipses everyone .

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Thats the spirit Game i know your big Barrera fan like me i have faith in my boy Barrera to do a number on Pac.