Manfredo's/Lacy's stock after their fight...

If you look at both fighters anyone can say that this is a must win for both of them...

This is def a crossroads fight but the funny thing is how I view the stock of both men should either win.

Everyone who has ever posted on this board knows I'm a Manfredo fan but I also really like Lacy. This fight intriques me because both of them need a boost. But what will this fight do for the stock of both fighters? Will it really be a boost for both of them?

Result: Lacy by KO(I do NOT see this happening)

What people will say:
Lacy's power is back after his surgery. He was expected to win. He KO'd Manfredo who has never been KO'd(yet many in the boxing comunity will say this was "supposed" to happen)

-Stock rises due to the KO that has never happened before. We as fans do put stock in the first time a man hits the canvas or is KO'd

Result:Manfredo by KO(Lets be serious ;D)
What people will say: Lacy is finished. Calzaghe broke him. If this happened it would put Manfredo on another level and back in the title contension picture.

-Stock would climb drimatically and the "overrated" tag would loosen.

Result:Lacy by dec.(This is more fisable to me)
What people will say: Manfredo is and will stay a fringe contender. But people will wonder if Lacy really ever had "Power" or if it was just the opposition.

-Stock would rise slightly but questions about him ever again becoming champ would still be prominent.

Result:Manfredo by dec.(This is also a fisable outcome with the shoulder and confidence in question)
What people would say: Lacy was broken by calzaghe and was beaten by a "contender". It will be a long road back to contension and Manfredo just may be better then we all thought.

-Stock would rise much higher then it is now having a name of a former champ on your resume with only one lose.

Result:Draw(This another fisable conclusion)

-Stock of Lacy would drop and Stock of Manfredo would rise.



This is just how it works out in my head and what it seems to me is that minus a KO of Manfredo, Lacy's stock takes the most hit on this fight. Basicly Manfredo Jr. is supposed to lose but a dec. would not really help his stock but maybe his confidence. I don't see Manfredo being KO'd by Lacy.

I'd say it won't do much for Lacy unless he wins impressively. Manfredo will get big props if he pulls this off. I don't think Lacy is as good as people think.

lacy will win

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fantastic insight! :o :o :o

If Manfredo tucks in his defence, works off the jab and just boxes, he'll take Lacy by decision. Lacy is one dimensional and plods forward. I think Pete should just pick his punches and cover up. I'm going for Manfredo by decision. He's nothing special, but he's better than most on Saddo's are willing to give him credit for.

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If Manfredo tucks in his defence, works off the jab and just boxes, he'll take Lacy by decision. Lacy is one dimensional and plods forward. I think Pete should just pick his punches and cover up. I'm going for Manfredo by decision. He's nothing special, but he's better than most on Saddo's are willing to give him credit for.

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Oh yeah he'll still get dogged. People don't even think he belongs in the top 20 which is crazy... It can go either way but it will be a close dec.

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If Manfredo tucks in his defence, works off the jab and just boxes, he'll take Lacy by decision. Lacy is one dimensional and plods forward. I think Pete should just pick his punches and cover up. I'm going for Manfredo by decision. He's nothing special, but he's better than most on Saddo's are willing to give him credit for.

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Oh yeah he'll still get dogged. People don't even think he belongs in the top 20 which is crazy... It can go either way but it will be a close dec.

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I know. He shouldn't have been in with Calzaghe, because he's not in the same class. Even though he was pulled out early, he took it on the chin and came back to have 2 more fights in 2 months. He didn't bitch or moan about being hard done by. I respect his character because doesn't get disheartened by his setbacks, as many boxers do.

Lacy will beat him with stock to spare.

Manfredo is utter crap.

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If Manfredo tucks in his defence, works off the jab and just boxes, he'll take Lacy by decision. Lacy is one dimensional and plods forward. I think Pete should just pick his punches and cover up. I'm going for Manfredo by decision. He's nothing special, but he's better than most on Saddo's are willing to give him credit for.

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Oh yeah he'll still get dogged. People don't even think he belongs in the top 20 which is crazy... It can go either way but it will be a close dec.

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I know. He shouldn't have been in with Calzaghe, because he's not in the same class. Even though he was pulled out early, he took it on the chin and came back to have 2 more fights in 2 months. He didn't bitch or moan about being hard done by. I respect his character because doesn't get disheartened by his setbacks, as many boxers do.

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Well ultimatly he knows he was in over his head. as a fan I'm glad that didn't go deeper. I don't like to watch fighters get embarassed... I think he belongs about 13-15 in the SMW div. The way he's talked about around hear you'd think he was a garbage fighter with no skill or power. I think he is a B level fghter but I don't give Lacy anymore then that either. People think he's gonna come off this shoulder surgery and be able to throw it with rediculous conviction and all of a sudden be able to box like sweet pea... Stop it. Manfredo is 3 years younger then Lacy and he has more ring experience.

Everyone picking Lacy is just starnge. I understand he is a former world champ but look at both their records. Show me all the rediculously fantastic fighters on his record that KO'd with his "power".

Lacy KO s 75% of his opponants and Manfredo 50%.

Manfredo has 179 pro rounds and Lacy has 122

Manfredo never been down or KO'd

I don't see where this is the mismatch people are making it! >:mad

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Lacy will beat him with stock to spare.

Manfredo is utter crap.

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I agree. Manfredo is not good at all, I appreciate POB zeal for Petey and I must say if Little Petey ever became a Bona Fied champ(when hell froze over) you would definetly be the original pusher and 1st fan of his around here.

That being said I think you are on Peteys pay roll cuase your his best promoter. He sucks really bad, he is mediocre at best and you can tell me all the blah blah stats about his rank before the contender.... If it wasnt for that show he would be 0 today absolutely zilch. I mean Morrade Hakkar was Hopkins mandatory back in 2003 and you didnt hear anyone singing his praises from the tree tops ::** Manfredo should kiss Stallone's and Sugar Ray's asss for wherehe is today

JT could you do me a favor and respond to this I think we posted at the same time...

I was waiting for you on this thread cuz I know you'd have good imput and your a Lacy fan.

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Well ultimatly he knows he was in over his head. as a fan I'm glad that didn't go deeper. I don't like to watch fighters get embarassed... I think he belongs about 13-15 in the SMW div. The way he's talked about around hear you'd think he was a garbage fighter with no skill or power. I think he is a B level fghter but I don't give Lacy anymore then that either. People think he's gonna come off this shoulder surgery and be able to throw it with rediculous conviction and all of a sudden be able to box like sweet pea... Stop it. Manfredo is 3 years younger then Lacy and he has more ring experience.

Everyone picking Lacy is just starnge. I understand he is a former world champ but look at both their records. Show me all the rediculously fantastic fighters on his record that KO'd with his "power".

Lacy KO s 75% of his opponants and Manfredo 50%.

Manfredo has 179 pro rounds and Lacy has 122

Manfredo never been down or KO'd

I don't see where this is the mismatch people are making it! >:mad

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If Manfredo tucks in his defence, works off the jab and just boxes, he'll take Lacy by decision. Lacy is one dimensional and plods forward. I think Pete should just pick his punches and cover up. I'm going for Manfredo by decision. He's nothing special, but he's better than most on Saddo's are willing to give him credit for.

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Oh yeah he'll still get dogged.  People don't even think he belongs in the top 20 which is crazy...  It can go either way but it will be a close dec.

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I know. He shouldn't have been in with Calzaghe, because he's not in the same class. Even though he was pulled out early, he took it on the chin and came back to have 2 more fights in 2 months. He didn't bitch or moan about being hard done by. I respect his character because doesn't get disheartened by his setbacks, as many boxers do.

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Well ultimatly he knows he was in over his head.  as a fan I'm glad that didn't go deeper.  I don't like to watch fighters get embarassed...  I think he belongs about 13-15 in the SMW div.  The way he's talked about around hear you'd think he was a garbage fighter with no skill or power.  I think he is a B level fghter but I don't give Lacy anymore then that either.  People think he's gonna come off this shoulder surgery and be able to throw it with rediculous conviction and all of a sudden be able to box like sweet pea...  Stop it.  Manfredo is 3 years younger then Lacy and he has more ring experience.

Everyone picking Lacy is just starnge.  I understand he is a former world champ but look at both their records.  Show me all the rediculously fantastic fighters on his record that KO'd with his "power". 

Lacy KO s 75% of his opponants and Manfredo 50%.

Manfredo has 179 pro rounds and Lacy has 122

Manfredo never been down or KO'd

I don't see where this is the mismatch people are making it! >:mad

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Lacy is a top 5 supermiddle, and earned his way there. He wasnt a product of a goddamn shitty reality show. Dont even try to come in here and sell your bullshit that Manfredo should even be in the same class as Lacy ;D Jeff Ko'd Reid, Williams,Vanderpool and desicioned Sheika.

Manfredo hasnt done shiit. He has nothing over Lacy's comp NOTHING... Manfredo cant even carry Lacy's jock strap. It took Manfredo 1 more round to dispatch of their common opponent(Pemberton) Who Jeff lifted off the ground and had him in the fetal position

all jokin aside bro you know I respect your opinion and your zeal for Manfredo since he is from your town... but I just dont see him beating Jeff

Lacy's confidence got utterly smashed when he lost to Calzaghe and needed a couple of fights to get that confidence back.

Manfredo is a pussy!!! He came to England and ran from Calzaghe for 3 embarrassing rounds.

Lacy will dominate Manafraido and then go on to bigger things. This is just a come back fight in my opinion. Lacy's camp know this will be an easy win and see it as the perfect stepping stone.

Manfredo is a journey man at best!

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If Manfredo tucks in his defence, works off the jab and just boxes, he'll take Lacy by decision. Lacy is one dimensional and plods forward. I think Pete should just pick his punches and cover up. I'm going for Manfredo by decision. He's nothing special, but he's better than most on Saddo's are willing to give him credit for.

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Oh yeah he'll still get dogged.  People don't even think he belongs in the top 20 which is crazy...  It can go either way but it will be a close dec.

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I know. He shouldn't have been in with Calzaghe, because he's not in the same class. Even though he was pulled out early, he took it on the chin and came back to have 2 more fights in 2 months. He didn't bitch or moan about being hard done by. I respect his character because doesn't get disheartened by his setbacks, as many boxers do.

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Well ultimatly he knows he was in over his head.  as a fan I'm glad that didn't go deeper.  I don't like to watch fighters get embarassed...  I think he belongs about 13-15 in the SMW div.  The way he's talked about around hear you'd think he was a garbage fighter with no skill or power.  I think he is a B level fghter but I don't give Lacy anymore then that either.  People think he's gonna come off this shoulder surgery and be able to throw it with rediculous conviction and all of a sudden be able to box like sweet pea...  Stop it.  Manfredo is 3 years younger then Lacy and he has more ring experience.

Everyone picking Lacy is just starnge.  I understand he is a former world champ but look at both their records.  Show me all the rediculously fantastic fighters on his record that KO'd with his "power". 

Lacy KO s 75% of his opponants and Manfredo 50%.

Manfredo has 179 pro rounds and Lacy has 122

Manfredo never been down or KO'd

I don't see where this is the mismatch people are making it! >:mad

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Lacy is a top 5 supermiddle, and earned his way there. He wasnt a product of a goddamn shitty reality show. Dont even try to come in here and sell your bullshit that Manfredo should even be in the same class as Lacy;D Jeff Ko'd Reid, Williams,Vanderpool and desicioned Sheika.

Manfredo hasnt done shiit. He has nothing over Lacy's comp NOTHING... Manfredo cant even carry Lacy's jock strap. It took Manfredo 1 more round to dispatch of their common opponent(Pemberton) Who Jeff lifted off the ground and had him in the fetal position

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I think I just did sell my bullshit up there...  You're just not buying.  Look, He has four more KOs then peter...  Lacy 29 and Manfredo's 21-0 record prior was not a product of the show.  But hey whatever...  Maybe Manfredo could have gotten as sound a beating as Lacy did if he had been given the chanch...

Again, I don't know where this mismatch bullshit comes from.