Not impressed by Khan and warren combo!
Kahns been pro for over 2 and a half years. and imo he isnt being kept busy enough. i mean 14 fights in over 2 and a half years, is pretty crap for someone who wants a title shot before he's 22, and as a young pro he needs fights and experience which he isnt getting, i dont know why warren would not let khan fight often? i know povetkin has had around the same but look at the opposition, the guys already fought former WORLD champions.
khan really believes he's the real deal, and he has a right to believe that after his amatuer success, i know he is talented but he doesnt know his weaknesses as a pro imo. it was easy for him to dance around and outpoint everyone for maximum 8 minutes in the ams, but in the pro ranks, he always tires when he gets past round 6. he's already not a heavy puncher, but becos of his speed he can knock a few ppl down with some good shots but after he gets tired, theres hardly anything on his shots!
worst yet is his chin. he seems to wobble everytime he gets hit proper.
imo khan (who im a big fan of) is going to find it very difficult to win a world title.
ali had the legs and the power to dance around for 15 rounds, khan cant do that for barely 6 rounds.
his defense is awful imo. when i watch tapes of a young mayweather or a young toney, these guys never ran on to shots the way khan does, khan will throw a combo, and will keep throwing even if the guy is throwing back at him. i have noticed this a while ago, i hate to disspoint you but khan is not a young toney or a young mayweather.
if you watch a tape of mayweather or toney fighting journeymen, and then you watch khan, you can see the difference froma mile off. im not sayin mayweather or toney are far more talented, they jst beta fighters from the beginning, even tho toney is aggressive he still has defense on his mind and would never (NEVER) get caught by stupid shots, like limmond caught khan.
do not be surprised if grahem earl stops khan, i hope not!!!
worst yet is, the champ at 135 is juan diaz, i really feel sorry for khan now, i dont know how khan will deal with so much pressure!
december we will see how khan does, if khan beats earl easily then he has improved, if not then its same ol khan (which aint ol very good).
does anyone agree?
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Ive said some bad stuff about khan but he impressed me with his last win....
Its unfortunate he has so much covereage because it's easy to pick out flaws in up and comers.
And the whole Willie limond thing you could see khan was trying to please the crowd and just steam roller limond, as soon as he took the knockdown and recovered he OWNED Limond...
His last win i thought was very good win...he won the way he should have.
And winning could will only develope his ability's and confidence...regarding his power he seems to be able to put power in his punches when it calls for it....so far he has shown he can finish fairly good aswell once he gets his man going..
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Last time Warren impressed me was when he said to Terry Marsh "i think i can catch that bullit go on lets try" ;D ;D ;D
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Khan really hasn't impressed me at all.
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Khan doesnt have a chance againest the elite
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Not impressed with Khan hope manages to prove me wrong but i doubt it ;D
Re: Not impressed by Khan and warren combo!
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Originally Posted by Lionheart Lacy
Kahns been pro for over 2 and a half years. and imo he isnt being kept busy enough. i mean 14 fights in over 2 and a half years, is pretty crap for someone who wants a title shot before he's 22, and as a young pro he needs fights and experience which he isnt getting, i dont know why warren would not let khan fight often? i know povetkin has had around the same but look at the opposition, the guys already fought former WORLD champions.
khan really believes he's the real deal, and he has a right to believe that after his amatuer success, i know he is talented but he doesnt know his weaknesses as a pro imo. it was easy for him to dance around and outpoint everyone for maximum 8 minutes in the ams, but in the pro ranks, he always tires when he gets past round 6. he's already not a heavy puncher, but becos of his speed he can knock a few ppl down with some good shots but after he gets tired, theres hardly anything on his shots!
worst yet is his chin. he seems to wobble everytime he gets hit proper.
imo khan (who im a big fan of) is going to find it very difficult to win a world title.
ali had the legs and the power to dance around for 15 rounds, khan cant do that for barely 6 rounds.
his defense is awful imo. when i watch tapes of a young mayweather or a young toney, these guys never ran on to shots the way khan does, khan will throw a combo, and will keep throwing even if the guy is throwing back at him. i have noticed this a while ago, i hate to disspoint you but khan is not a young toney or a young mayweather.
if you watch a tape of mayweather or toney fighting journeymen, and then you watch khan, you can see the difference froma mile off. im not sayin mayweather or toney are far more talented, they jst beta fighters from the beginning, even tho toney is aggressive he still has defense on his mind and would never (NEVER) get caught by stupid shots, like limmond caught khan.
do not be surprised if grahem earl stops khan, i hope not!!!
worst yet is, the champ at 135 is juan diaz, i really feel sorry for khan now, i dont know how khan will deal with so much pressure!
december we will see how khan does, if khan beats earl easily then he has improved, if not then its same ol khan (which aint ol very good).
does anyone agree?
:cooclick: man, I can't help but agree. Khan HAS to fight Thaxton after Earl. I don't want anymore bollocks fights. I'd say the same to supporters of Roman Greenberg, although watching him fight points out the obvious to why he hasn't been put in there with a test yet.
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
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Originally Posted by Lionheart Lacy
Kahns been pro for over 2 and a half years. and imo he isnt being kept busy enough. i mean 14 fights in over 2 and a half years, is pretty crap for someone who wants a title shot before he's 22, and as a young pro he needs fights and experience which he isnt getting, i dont know why warren would not let khan fight often? i know povetkin has had around the same but look at the opposition, the guys already fought former WORLD champions.
khan really believes he's the real deal, and he has a right to believe that after his amatuer success, i know he is talented but he doesnt know his weaknesses as a pro imo. it was easy for him to dance around and outpoint everyone for maximum 8 minutes in the ams, but in the pro ranks, he always tires when he gets past round 6. he's already not a heavy puncher, but becos of his speed he can knock a few ppl down with some good shots but after he gets tired, theres hardly anything on his shots!
worst yet is his chin. he seems to wobble everytime he gets hit proper.
imo khan (who im a big fan of) is going to find it very difficult to win a world title.
ali had the legs and the power to dance around for 15 rounds, khan cant do that for barely 6 rounds.
his defense is awful imo. when i watch tapes of a young mayweather or a young toney, these guys never ran on to shots the way khan does, khan will throw a combo, and will keep throwing even if the guy is throwing back at him. i have noticed this a while ago, i hate to disspoint you but khan is not a young toney or a young mayweather.
if you watch a tape of mayweather or toney fighting journeymen, and then you watch khan, you can see the difference froma mile off. im not sayin mayweather or toney are far more talented, they jst beta fighters from the beginning, even tho toney is aggressive he still has defense on his mind and would never (NEVER) get caught by stupid shots, like limmond caught khan.
do not be surprised if grahem earl stops khan, i hope not!!!
worst yet is, the champ at 135 is juan diaz, i really feel sorry for khan now, i dont know how khan will deal with so much pressure!
december we will see how khan does, if khan beats earl easily then he has improved, if not then its same ol khan (which aint ol very good).
does anyone agree?
:cooclick: man, I can't help but agree. Khan HAS to fight Thaxton after Earl. I don't want anymore bollocks fights. I'd say the same to supporters of Roman Greenberg, although watching him fight points out the obvious to why he hasn't been put in there with a test yet.
Gotta agree man Greenburg is the most frustrating fighter i have ever watched when is he going to step it up and use some energy canīt decide weather he is lazy or just that he knows heīs gonna win because of who they have matched him with. ::**
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How can 14 fights in 2 years not be active enough?
He is beginning to take palpable steps up and I think he's actually being managed pretty well.
That said, the critique is fair game as the hype is still exceeding the achievement.
Anyone prepared to give him his props if he beats Earl?
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Originally Posted by Lionheart Lacy
Kahns been pro for over 2 and a half years. and imo he isnt being kept busy enough. i mean 14 fights in over 2 and a half years, is pretty crap for someone who wants a title shot before he's 22, and as a young pro he needs fights and experience which he isnt getting, i dont know why warren would not let khan fight often? i know povetkin has had around the same but look at the opposition, the guys already fought former WORLD champions.
khan really believes he's the real deal, and he has a right to believe that after his amatuer success, i know he is talented but he doesnt know his weaknesses as a pro imo. it was easy for him to dance around and outpoint everyone for maximum 8 minutes in the ams, but in the pro ranks, he always tires when he gets past round 6. he's already not a heavy puncher, but becos of his speed he can knock a few ppl down with some good shots but after he gets tired, theres hardly anything on his shots!
worst yet is his chin. he seems to wobble everytime he gets hit proper.
imo khan (who im a big fan of) is going to find it very difficult to win a world title.
ali had the legs and the power to dance around for 15 rounds, khan cant do that for barely 6 rounds.
his defense is awful imo. when i watch tapes of a young mayweather or a young toney, these guys never ran on to shots the way khan does, khan will throw a combo, and will keep throwing even if the guy is throwing back at him. i have noticed this a while ago, i hate to disspoint you but khan is not a young toney or a young mayweather.
if you watch a tape of mayweather or toney fighting journeymen, and then you watch khan, you can see the difference froma mile off. im not sayin mayweather or toney are far more talented, they jst beta fighters from the beginning, even tho toney is aggressive he still has defense on his mind and would never (NEVER) get caught by stupid shots, like limmond caught khan.
do not be surprised if grahem earl stops khan, i hope not!!!
worst yet is, the champ at 135 is juan diaz, i really feel sorry for khan now, i dont know how khan will deal with so much pressure!
december we will see how khan does, if khan beats earl easily then he has improved, if not then its same ol khan (which aint ol very good).
does anyone agree?
CC for writing a post this long and for putting the time and effort into it. However i do disagree with most of it :P
Here's where i disagree...
Kahns been pro for over 2 and a half years. and imo he isnt being kept busy enough. i mean 14 fights in over 2 and a half years, is pretty crap for someone who wants a title shot before he's 22
IMO 14 fights in two years is plenty for an up and coming fighter. His next fight is against an interim world title challenger and his next fight is on his 21st birthday (which is the minimum age he can fight for a world title). So baring in mind he is already commonwealth champion he is coming along just fine.
When you compare that to other british fighters challenging for world honours, Kahn's resume is very favourable.
Froch didn't win a commonwealth title until he was 27
Junior Witter didn't win a commonwealth title until he was 28
i know povetkin has had around the same but look at the opposition, the guys already fought former WORLD champions
Povetkin is a heavyweight and there is a bit of a gulf in class between the heavyweight contenders and the lightweight contenders. I'm not saying that all of Kahn's opponents have been great but neither have Povetkin's. Povetkin is also 28 so he doesn't exactly have time on his side.
he always tires when he gets past round 6.
I don't see how you come to that conclusion.....seriously. Did you not see the Willie Limond fight?
worst yet is his chin. he seems to wobble everytime he gets hit proper
For the last time, Limond hurt Kahn with a temple shot. He didn't wobble him by hitting him on the chin. See how Cotto got wobbled by Corley. See how Cotto's chin was against Mosley.
imo khan (who im a big fan of) is going to find it very difficult to win a world title.
Nobody is exactly going to find it easy. He has more potential than any of Britain's current World Champions have ever had.
he's already not a heavy puncher
Martynov, Medjadji and scott lawton would all disagree with you on that one.
but becos of his speed he can knock a few ppl down with some good shots but after he gets tired, theres hardly anything on his shots!
Again i have to refer to the Willie Limond fight. If there was hardly anything on his shots after the 6th round, how did he manage to break Limond's jaw and nose? Not to mention stop him?
his defense is awful imo. when i watch tapes of a young mayweather or a young toney, these guys never ran on to shots the way khan does, khan will throw a combo, and will keep throwing even if the guy is throwing back at him. i have noticed this a while ago, i hate to disspoint you but khan is not a young toney or a young mayweather.
I agree his defense isn't the best but his offensive arsenal is pretty shit hot. Not every fighter fights like Toney or Mayweather. Each fighter has their own style. Ricky Hatton's defense isn't that great, Joe Calzaghe's isn't, Junior Witter's isn't, Naz's wasn't.....but they are all/were world champions.
even tho toney is aggressive he still has defense on his mind and would never (NEVER) get caught by stupid shots, like limmond caught khan.
What about the time he tried to mimic what Roy Jones was doing and he got put on his arse?
worst yet is, the champ at 135 is juan diaz, i really feel sorry for khan now, i dont know how khan will deal with so much pressure!
I agree that Diaz is a fight that Kahn would not have much of a chance in at the minute. But a few years down the line he will have improved drastically. Warren won't (quite rightly IMO) put Kahn in with Diaz until he has had 30+ fights so we don't have to worry about that just yet.
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Originally Posted by Steelie
How can 14 fights in 2 years not be active enough?
He is beginning to take palpable steps up and I think he's actually being managed pretty well.
That said, the critique is fair game as the hype is still exceeding the achievement.
Anyone prepared to give him his props if he beats Earl?
I like the Earl fight, it's a step in the right direction but Khan NEEDS do a number on him.
Earl has fought twice in the past 2 years, looking crap against Ramirez and suffering a battering against Katsidis.
If it turns into another Limond job there's a big chance Khan wont get away with it. And certainly does his chances of future glory no good.
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Earl is a BIG step up for Khan IMO after Earl dropping Katsidis and will really show how good Amir is. I was surprised when Khan v Earl as announced as I thought Frank "WBO" Warren would leave it for a couple of fights and fight old man Thaxton.
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Originally Posted by Lionheart Lacy
Kahns been pro for over 2 and a half years. and imo he isnt being kept busy enough. i mean 14 fights in over 2 and a half years, is pretty crap for someone who wants a title shot before he's 22, and as a young pro he needs fights and experience which he isnt getting, i dont know why warren would not let khan fight often? i know povetkin has had around the same but look at the opposition, the guys already fought former WORLD champions.
I know this is probably because I am not British (and therefore does not have to deal with the hype), but I have never quite understood why people are so tough on Khan.
He is being brought along like a prospect. They are taking the route fighting British fighters, who, incidentally are among the top 10 European lightweights or so. Is there a monumental gap between being top 10 lightweight in Europe and being top 10 p4p in the world? Sure. But there is a time and a place for everything and there is no need to put in the final verdict on Khan just yet. After all he is fighting his way up through the rankings, progressing along the way. That's not a bad thing.
Also, try looking at this page: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...mmer_Olympics> These are the fighters from Athens. How many of these names do you recognize? How many have been progressing faster than Khan, who, by the way, is the youngest of all of them? Not too many, me think (although I would, arguably, rate of few of them above Khan p4p at the moment).
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We will see if Khan is improving, iam glad to see him in with a dangerous fighter if he wins this i would put him in with Thaxton,Thaxton didnt look good in his last fight and they could catch him at the right time.
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I am impressed with the way Khan has been fighting so far. He has shown he can bang and has a decent chin, i was feeling a bit dull about Khan until the Limond fight and then he came back, this was defiatly showing us he has world champion ability. Its early days for him, his next fight will be a good step up and GE isnt going to take it easy at all. I see a good scrap on the cards for Khan, but i can also see him getting the nod here.
