Cotto Mosley did just over 400,000 buys-thoughts?
It's on boxing talk,Arum mentions it. Pacquiao MAB 2 did 350k. I'm pretty impressed by Cotto-SSM. I initially though it would be 500k but SSM has never been a massive star.For a young fighter,Cotto did dam good and hopefully his stock will keep on rising.
Re: Cotto Mosley did just over 400,000 buys-thoughts?
You have to understand this too...Novemebr was a big month for boxing...We had Calzaghe/Kessler....Vargas/Mayorga...and wasn't Mormeck/Haye PPV?.....With it being so close to the holiday season the average fan is not going to spend 200 on PPV's most just picked one...so0 that may have been a big factor...added with the Mosley not being a huge PPV draw and Cotto outside of the sport has little exposure.....Seems low to us for two fighters of that caliber but then again we are die hards
Re: Cotto Mosley did just over 400,000 buys-thoughts?
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
It's on boxing talk,Arum mentions it. Pacquiao MAB 2 did 350k. I'm pretty impressed by Cotto-SSM. I initially though it would be 500k but SSM has never been a massive star.For a young fighter,Cotto did dam good and hopefully his stock will keep on rising.
This is an Arum lie. Notice that HBO did not issue their usual press release.
An industry source told me that the fight did WAY less. A tad under 300K.
Previous Arum lies: He said that Margarito-Gomez did about 100K. It did 35K.
Arum said that Cotto-Judah did 225K. It actually did 180K.
I understand why Bob does that. It benefits Arum to make his fighter seem like more of a draw than he really is. He is trying to create a successful "brand". Kinda like when the record company buys back a bunch of their artists' cd's.
But you should not believe the Arum numbers. Only trust the industry nums.
Re: Cotto Mosley did just over 400,000 buys-thoughts?
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Originally Posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
It's on boxing talk,Arum mentions it. Pacquiao MAB 2 did 350k. I'm pretty impressed by Cotto-SSM. I initially though it would be 500k but SSM has never been a massive star.For a young fighter,Cotto did dam good and hopefully his stock will keep on rising.
This is an Arum lie.
Notice that HBO did not issue their usual press release.
An industry source told me that the fight did WAY less.
A tad under 300K.
Previous Arum lies: He said that Margarito-Gomez did about 100K. It did 35K.
Arum said that Cotto-Judah did 225K. It actually did 180K.
I understand why Bob does that. It benefits Arum to make his fighter seem like more of a draw than he really is. He is trying to create a successful "brand". Kinda like when the record company buys back a bunch of their artists' cd's.
But you should not believe the Arum numbers. Only trust the industry nums.
Buy stats are available for your cable company...Though I do agree they are a bit inflated by some promoters they have to keep it in reason....
Re: Cotto Mosley did just over 400,000 buys-thoughts?
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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn
Buy stats are available for your cable company...Though I do agree they are a bit inflated by some promoters they have to keep it in reason....
What complicates the accuracy of the reporting is the final rollup from all the RBOC's. For example, The initial nums for TWA was 2.15 mil. And then it rolled up to 2.4 mil.
The most accurate reports SHOULD be from the distributor (Time-Warner) or from an industry data source (AC Nielsen). The promoter is your LEAST reliable source.
The general perception, for example, is that Cotto-Mosley packed out MSG. In truth, there were tons of empty seats. When Shane fought Collazo, the arena was 60% EMPTY.
There are very few legitimate, consistent draws in the sport. Cotto isn't one of them.
Re: Cotto Mosley did just over 400,000 buys-thoughts?
Just shows how popular Oscar is OUTSIDE hardcore fans.
Between 400,000 and 200,000 - reported, taking into consideration DIOS DOMINICANO's post - seems to be the standard for ALL these PPVs.
Oscar hit 900,000 for Mayorga and 2 million for Floyd.
Re: Cotto Mosley did just over 400,000 buys-thoughts?
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Just shows how popular Oscar is OUTSIDE hardcore fans.
Between 400,000 and 200,000 - reported, taking into consideration DIOS DOMINICANO's post - seems to be the standard for ALL these PPVs.
Oscar hit 900,000 for Mayorga and 2 million for Floyd.
Please allow me to share PPV history:
Delahoya-Mayweather: 2.4 MIL
Tyson-Holyfield 2: 1.99 MIL
Tyson-Lewis: 1.8 MIL
Tyson-Holyfield 1: 1.59 MIL
Tyson- McNeely: 1.55 MIL
Holyfield - Foreman: 1.4 MIL
DelaHoya-Trinidad: 1.4 MIL
Tyson-Bruno: 1.37 MIL
Tyson-Ruddock 2: 1.25 MIL
Holyfield-Lewis 1: 1.2 MIL
Holyfield-Douglas: 1.06 MIL
Tyson -Selden: 1.01 MIL
DelaHoya- Hopkins - 1.0 Mil
DelaHoya - Mosley 2 : 975K
Tyson- Ruddock 1: 959K
DelaHoya- Vargas - 940K
DelaHoya-Mayorga - 935K
Holyfield-Bowe 1: 929K
Delahoya-Whitaker: 720K
Tyson-Botha: 700K
DelaHoya - Mosley : 585K
Delahoya- Quartey: 570K
Delahoya-Camacho: 560K
Delahoya-Chavez 2: 525K
Trinidad- Wright: 520K
Trinidad - Vargas: 520K
Trinidad-Hopkins: 475K
Tyson-Golota: 450K
Lewis/Tua - 420K
Jones-Tarver 3 : 415K
Mosley-Vargas: 415K
Taylor-Hopkins 2: 410K
DelaHoya - Castillejo: 400K
Mayweather-Judah : 400k
Delahoya-Sturm: 380K
Mosley- Vargas 2 375K
Taylor-Hopkins : 370K
Gatti-Mayweather: 360K
Trinidad-Joppy: 350K
Lewis - Grant: 350K
Hopkins- Tarver: 350K
Delahoya-Campas: 350K
Morales- Pacquiao 3: 360K
Morales- pacquiao 2: 350k
Morales-pacquiao: 340K
Mayweather- Baldomir: 340K
Delahoya-Gonzales: 345K
Morales- Barrera 1,2,3: 300k-330K each
Delahoya- Ruelas: 330K
Hopkins – Wright : 305K
Delahoya- W. Rivera: 240K
Mosley/Estrada & Margarito/Cintron: 225K
Barrera – Marquez: 225K
Delahoya-G. Hernandez: 220K
Cotto – Judah: 180K
Ruiz-Golota: 175K
Barrera-Juarez: 165K
Jones, Jr- Harding: 125K
Klitschko- Williams: 120K
Barrera-Peden: & Mosley/Cruz 110K
Cotto-Malignaggi : 90K
Barrera-Fana: 75K
Rahman-Maskaev: 60K
Margarito-Gomez: 35K
Jones – Hanshaw – 24K
Re: Cotto Mosley did just over 400,000 buys-thoughts?
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
It's on boxing talk,Arum mentions it. Pacquiao MAB 2 did 350k. I'm pretty impressed by Cotto-SSM. I initially though it would be 500k but SSM has never been a massive star.For a young fighter,Cotto did dam good and hopefully his stock will keep on rising.
i think judah cotto did 500
Re: Cotto Mosley did just over 400,000 buys-thoughts?
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
It's on boxing talk,Arum mentions it. Pacquiao MAB 2 did 350k. I'm pretty impressed by Cotto-SSM. I initially though it would be 500k but SSM has never been a massive star.For a young fighter,Cotto did dam good and hopefully his stock will keep on rising.
i think judah cotto did 500
;D
Dream on
Oh you mean 500 exactly?
Re: Cotto Mosley did just over 400,000 buys-thoughts?
... Cotto – Judah: 180k
Courtesy of DIOS DOMINICANO...hope they're accurate-ish. ;)
Re: Cotto Mosley did just over 400,000 buys-thoughts?
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
It's on boxing talk,Arum mentions it. Pacquiao MAB 2 did 350k. I'm pretty impressed by Cotto-SSM. I initially though it would be 500k but SSM has never been a massive star.For a young fighter,Cotto did dam good and hopefully his stock will keep on rising.
Well done :appl: for Cotto.
The kid's only 27 and has had this much success.
A ODLH draw he wont be as I don't think anyone will be, but the kids doing great numbers.
Re: Cotto Mosley did just over 400,000 buys-thoughts?
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Originally Posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Just shows how popular Oscar is OUTSIDE hardcore fans.
Between 400,000 and 200,000 - reported, taking into consideration DIOS DOMINICANO's post - seems to be the standard for ALL these PPVs.
Oscar hit 900,000 for Mayorga and 2 million for Floyd.
Please allow me to share PPV history:
Delahoya-Mayweather: 2.4 MIL
Tyson-Holyfield 2: 1.99 MIL
Tyson-Lewis: 1.8 MIL
Tyson-Holyfield 1: 1.59 MIL
Tyson- McNeely: 1.55 MIL
Holyfield - Foreman: 1.4 MIL
DelaHoya-Trinidad: 1.4 MIL
Tyson-Bruno: 1.37 MIL
Tyson-Ruddock 2: 1.25 MIL
Holyfield-Lewis 1: 1.2 MIL
Holyfield-Douglas: 1.06 MIL
Tyson -Selden: 1.01 MIL
DelaHoya- Hopkins - 1.0 Mil
DelaHoya - Mosley 2 : 975K
Tyson- Ruddock 1: 959K
DelaHoya- Vargas - 940K
DelaHoya-Mayorga - 935K
Holyfield-Bowe 1: 929K
Delahoya-Whitaker: 720K
Tyson-Botha: 700K
DelaHoya - Mosley : 585K
Delahoya- Quartey: 570K
Delahoya-Camacho: 560K
Delahoya-Chavez 2: 525K
Trinidad- Wright: 520K
Trinidad - Vargas: 520K
Trinidad-Hopkins: 475K
Tyson-Golota: 450K
Lewis/Tua - 420K
Jones-Tarver 3 : 415K
Mosley-Vargas: 415K
Taylor-Hopkins 2: 410K
DelaHoya - Castillejo: 400K
Mayweather-Judah : 400k
Delahoya-Sturm: 380K
Mosley- Vargas 2 375K
Taylor-Hopkins : 370K
Gatti-Mayweather: 360K
Trinidad-Joppy: 350K
Lewis - Grant: 350K
Hopkins- Tarver: 350K
Delahoya-Campas: 350K
Morales- Pacquiao 3: 360K
Morales- pacquiao 2: 350k
Morales-pacquiao: 340K
Mayweather- Baldomir: 340K
Delahoya-Gonzales: 345K
Morales- Barrera 1,2,3: 300k-330K each
Delahoya- Ruelas: 330K
Hopkins – Wright : 305K
Delahoya- W. Rivera: 240K
Mosley/Estrada & Margarito/Cintron: 225K
Barrera – Marquez: 225K
Delahoya-G. Hernandez: 220K
Cotto – Judah: 180K
Ruiz-Golota: 175K
Barrera-Juarez: 165K
Jones, Jr- Harding: 125K
Klitschko- Williams: 120K
Barrera-Peden: & Mosley/Cruz 110K
Cotto-Malignaggi : 90K
Barrera-Fana: 75K
Rahman-Maskaev: 60K
Margarito-Gomez: 35K
Jones – Hanshaw – 24K
Don't know if all this is accurate but if it is then a :coolclick: for your efforts.
It seems that the UFC is still steamrolling most boxing PPV's then. I think 300,000 is an average PPV for them, with less than that being poor.
Re: Cotto Mosley did just over 400,000 buys-thoughts?
UFC are doing 1mil+ for the big shows, consistantly. Going off of those numbers I think Hatton v Mayweather may push the 1mil too.
Re: Cotto Mosley did just over 400,000 buys-thoughts?
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Originally Posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Just shows how popular Oscar is OUTSIDE hardcore fans.
Between 400,000 and 200,000 - reported, taking into consideration DIOS DOMINICANO's post - seems to be the standard for ALL these PPVs.
Oscar hit 900,000 for Mayorga and 2 million for Floyd.
Please allow me to share PPV history:
dios dominicano, what's your source?
Re: Cotto Mosley did just over 400,000 buys-thoughts?
How do I get to 7 negatives for providing FACTS?
I don't understand how that little ratings system works. Can somebody please tell me how to give/get ratings?
I don't need the bullshit. I'll just head back to the HBO boards.
THX
