Thank god it was a ko because...
Half of you guys, and the world would have thought this was a close fight, when though it was competitive for awhile it was never that close. Hatton put pressure on Mayweather, but he hardly ever landed once Mayweather adapted, and Mayweather was landing a lot of punches the compubox people obviously weren't seeing. PBF was easily landing over 50% of his power shots and he did some good body work in close. My biggest surprise was that he was actually better than Hatton on the inside and he didn't complain to the ref when things got rough like he used to, instead he punched back. Joe Cortez, this was his worst ref'ing I've seen, it didn't change the fight because Mayweather was able to handle himself, but Mayweather should have lost a point at the very least for his using elbows in there so much. However Hatton is still a really good fighter, and I think that he has a lot left in him.
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That was always the problem for Hatton, he's got good foot speed so he could get in quickly on Mayweather but Mayweather's a great inside fighter, that's what seperates him from most "boxers."
Has Mayweather ever had a point taken away for using the left elbow, I can't remember. He's always used it when fighting on the inside.
Anyway I doubt Hatton sticks around that long, definitely not at 147, its just not his best weight. And with his style he's not going to get better as he gets older. I read where he's told his family he'll retire within a year and I know boxers say that stuff all the time but I wouldn't be surprised if he actually did.
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Yeah thank god for the KO. I dont get the Hatton fans, so what if you barge in and apply lots of uneducated pressure but land hardly any punches does that automatically give you the round. This fight was dominated by Mayweather even if there was'nt a KO, but lets not forget there was a KO. Lets not ever forget. I do hope he does recover mentally from the ko though, he seems to be a good likeable fella.
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
That was always the problem for Hatton, he's got good foot speed so he could get in quickly on Mayweather but Mayweather's a great inside fighter, that's what seperates him from most "boxers."
Has Mayweather ever had a point taken away for using the left elbow, I can't remember. He's always used it when fighting on the inside.
Anyway I doubt Hatton sticks around that long, definitely not at 147, its just not his best weight. And with his style he's not going to get better as he gets older. I read where he's told his family he'll retire within a year and I know boxers say that stuff all the time but I wouldn't be surprised if he actually did.
Lets see Hatton fight Junior Witter before he retires though. I still want to see that.
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Has Mayweather ever had a point taken away for using the left elbow, I can't remember. He's always used it when fighting on the inside.
He lost a point for that in the first Castillo fight. He was pretty over the top with it in that fight tho.
This fight proves to me Hatton was lucky to catch Castillo at the tail-end of his career and moving up in weight. Castillo fought PBF at his best weight and still arguably won their first fight. Hatton fought him higher up and got blasted.
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Lets face the facts Mayweather let Hatton fight his gameplan,and he still schooled him throughout the fight
There should have been a plan B in case plan A wasnt working
There wasnt
And as much as Ive disliked Floyd's mouth,and his antics over the years,he was actually pretty classy in the win
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I didint see any problem with the scoring. Hatton hit Elbows and Shoulders all night and shipped very clean punches...i gave Mayweather practically every round.
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I think for the first time the judges had it right. I was dissapointed in Lederman, and it was getting me worried that Mayweather might be robbed or even have this fight made to look closer than it was, just like the Oscar Dela Hoya fight. I think HBO does that to make the fights appear closer than they, or their whole squad really has no idea what its talking about. Also they should not have Emanuel on for Mayweather fights because he always says that Mayweather won't be able to handle this or that, but he always ends being able to handle what his opponent does. Oscar started jabing so Mayweather started countering him HARD with right crosses during the middleweights rounds which stopped Oscar from throwing it, Hatton tried to get inside and Mayweather picked his spots and threw short, stiff punches on the inside and head snapping jabs and crosses from the outside. The funny thing is that I believe if Mayweather wanted to he could have stayed on the outside using his jab like he did in the 8th or 9th I believe, but he made it a fight like against Oscar moreso than it could have been.
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Floyd was only up by 1 round when he knocked Hatton out.
Floyd didn't get hit at a better ratio than he hit Ricky but he didn't have ring generalship either....Ricky controlled the pace of the fight.
That being said I think it was most impressive that Floyd allowed Ricky to get close to him and Floyd still won. That right cross that shook Ricky was the turning point, much more so than the point being taken because up til then Ricky thought he had a shot but once he got rocked he started to doubt himself a lot more, you could tell it.
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I think the score of 88-82 was not debatable depending on how you look at it. Of the 10 rounds PBF outlanded Hatton by 8 rounds to 2. Hatton threw more in 6 of the 10 rounds but one of them was the 6 where according to the BBC Hatton landed more but threw less. They also had PBF landing 127 out of 344 whilst Hatton landed 65 out of 357. Looking at the stats round by round 88-82 is not too far off, based on BBC punch stats.
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Rickys corner let him down as much as his no jab style did ,they not once gave him the order to jab first then move in or under.
I think they must have cancelled out the whole basics in their minds just on Floyds longer reach and speed.
It was obvious his style wasnt working they owed it to their fighter to give him more options or answers, I heard none.
Ref should of deducted a point of off Floyd as well to be fair.
Floyd rocked, escaped unscathed, glad it finished the way it did or some people would be pissn and moaning for years.
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It was obvious his style wasnt working they owed it to their fighter to give him more options or answers, I heard none.
What other options did he have? I don't think he had any.
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Just watched the fight. Hatton won 2 rounds. 3 at best. The KD was hilarious.
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Originally Posted by Andre
It was obvious his style wasnt working they owed it to their fighter to give him more options or answers, I heard none.
What other options did he have? I don't think he had any.
1 Ricky your getting caught your down on points, his jab is catching you on the way in becuase you got both hands loaded for inner fighting!"
2 "Ricky dont just move in! redistance yourself, watch for the jab ,check it at the arm, at a distance, then move in on that same side and then do your inside work."
They owed him at least that !
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I just want to know why he hardly tried to punch to the body. Switching to a right hook would have given him some success. He left himself open anyhow, it would have been worth the risk, moreso than the obvious left anyhow.