Humberto Soto v Edwin Valero?

This would be one of my personal dream fights! Id LOVE to see it. It would show whether Valero could take power from a strong puncher and it would show if his power could crack a WORLD CLASS chin.

I'm not sold on Valero. His one fight against decent opposition he was dropped twice. Granted he went on to win in style but I'm sure Guzman, Soto, Pacquaio, Marquez etc would have beaten Mosquera more convincingly than Valero did.

Of his other opponents if you held them upto a mirror before the fights I doubt you'd see any breath at all.

He looks good beating up on stiffs but he won't hang with a decent fighter.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I'm not sold on Valero. His one fight against decent opposition he was dropped twice. Granted he went on to win in style but I'm sure Guzman, Soto, Pacquaio, Marquez etc would have beaten Mosquera more convincingly than Valero did.

Of his other opponents if you held them upto a mirror before the fights I doubt you'd see any breath at all.

He looks good beating up on stiffs but he won't hang with a decent fighter.

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Valero was dropped twice ?? if your on about his fight with Vicente Mosquera, he was only dropped once and he wasn't hurt. But if im wrong can you tell me the fight where he was dropped twice ?? wouldn't mind seeing it.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I'm not sold on Valero. His one fight against decent opposition he was dropped twice. Granted he went on to win in style but I'm sure Guzman, Soto, Pacquaio, Marquez etc would have beaten Mosquera more convincingly than Valero did.

Of his other opponents if you held them upto a mirror before the fights I doubt you'd see any breath at all.

He looks good beating up on stiffs but he won't hang with a decent fighter.

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Contradicted yourself there. You call Mosquera decent and then say Valero won't hang with a decent fighter? Valero neeeds to get more experience but for him to be a world champ already and to beat a tough tough fighter like Mosquera,,who beat the rugged Yodsonan Nantchai,in HIS backywar(which few fighters would have done) already tells me alot about V nom. And guys like Honmo aren't bums.

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I'm not sold on Valero. His one fight against decent opposition he was dropped twice. Granted he went on to win in style but I'm sure Guzman, Soto, Pacquaio, Marquez etc would have beaten Mosquera more convincingly than Valero did.

Of his other opponents if you held them upto a mirror before the fights I doubt you'd see any breath at all.

He looks good beating up on stiffs but he won't hang with a decent fighter.

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Contradicted yourself there. You call Mosquera decent and then say Valero won't hang with a decent fighter? Valero neeeds to get more experience but for him to be a world champ already and to beat a tough tough fighter like Mosquera,,who beat the rugged Yodsonan Nantchai,in HIS backywar(which few fighters would have done) already tells me alot about V nom. And guys like Honmo aren't bums.

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Mosquera wasn't really decent. He had a belt that was about it. He's not Gavin Rees but he ain't close to the likes of Marquez and Pacquiao. If one of them dropped him he wouldn't get up.

My bad on the Mosquera fight knockdowns. I thought he got rocked and dropped in the first round as well. I havn't watched it in a while, I remember Mosquera going down twice in the first but I thought he rocked Valero in that round too?

Didn't he have him in trouble on the ropes like Bika did to Codrington and Valero managed to pull out a hook to drop him and save himself?

That's how I remember it anyway.