Lederman gave rd 1 to Diaz?

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03-09-2008, 03:26 AM
Kid Gorgeous

Lederman gave rd 1 to Diaz?

Wtf?!?!
03-09-2008, 03:36 AM
The Boxer

Re: Lederman gave rd 1 to Diaz?

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Originally Posted by Kid Gorgeous

Wtf?!?!

i take it you disagree.
03-09-2008, 08:12 AM
josef4334

Re: Lederman gave rd 1 to Diaz?

i disagree as well.. i think everybody in HBO sucks up to Juan Diaz except manny steward. campbell won round 1.
03-09-2008, 08:17 AM
:::PSL:::

Re: Lederman gave rd 1 to Diaz?

I gave round 1 for Diaz too. That's when he was still fresh. His body started weakening in round 3. Good game plan from Campbell's camp.
03-09-2008, 05:16 PM
Rican

Re: Lederman gave rd 1 to Diaz?

Over the years I have watched and recorded hundreds of fights. I always marvelled at the accuracy of Lederman's cards. However, he has been slacking lately. Is it time he's led out to pasture and maybe put his daughter in on the HBO telecasts? Maybe each of the prognosticators should post their scorecards as well. Perhaps this would encourage them to watch the fight more carefully and in an unbiased manner, though this does not gurantee being unbiased. :-\
03-09-2008, 06:05 PM
No Contest

Re: Lederman gave rd 1 to Diaz?

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Originally Posted by Rican

Over the years I have watched and recorded hundreds of fights. I always marvelled at the accuracy of Lederman's cards. However, he has been slacking lately. Is it time he's led out to pasture and maybe put his daughter in on the HBO telecasts? Maybe each of the prognosticators should post their scorecards as well. Perhaps this would encourage them to watch the fight more carefully and in an unbiased manner, though this does not gurantee being unbiased. :-\

He's decent but he seems to give close rounds to the wrong guy alot.
03-09-2008, 06:24 PM
RozzySean

Re: Lederman gave rd 1 to Diaz?

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Originally Posted by Rican

Over the years I have watched and recorded hundreds of fights. I always marvelled at the accuracy of Lederman's cards. However, he has been slacking lately. Is it time he's led out to pasture and maybe put his daughter in on the HBO telecasts? Maybe each of the prognosticators should post their scorecards as well. Perhaps this would encourage them to watch the fight more carefully and in an unbiased manner, though this does not gurantee being unbiased. :-\

I'm with you on that. I've disagreed with him more and more recently. I gave Campbell round 1. I was shocked Harold gave it to Diaz. There was one other round Lederman gave to Diaz that I gave to Campbell, in maybe 5 or 6. I'm not sure exactly which one.
03-09-2008, 07:42 PM
noskill

Re: Lederman gave rd 1 to Diaz?

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Originally Posted by Kid Gorgeous

Wtf?!?!

I actually did too. I break the rounds into thirds for scoring ease and I don't look at compubox numbers. I try and score it with no more outside knowledge than the real judges have. I still had Nate winning 115-112 and was forced to take the point for the "headbutt"
03-09-2008, 08:03 PM
Pavlik

Re: Lederman gave rd 1 to Diaz?

But the greatest fool of them all is the judge that gave the fight to Juan Diaz making this fight a split decision.:mad: I was actually thinking they might rob Nate Campbell they took a lot of time to tally or announce the cores:-\
03-09-2008, 08:11 PM
noskill

Re: Lederman gave rd 1 to Diaz?

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Originally Posted by noskill

I actually did too. I break the rounds into thirds for scoring ease and I don't look at compubox numbers. I try and score it with no more outside knowledge than the real judges have. I still had Nate winning 115-112 and was forced to take the point for the "headbutt"

Correction!! LOL, my dumba$$ scored the first round for Campbell and the following 4 for Diaz.In fact that was all Diaz got on my card.
Dunno why I thought I gave #1 to Diaz,but I went and got my card and it wasn't as I first stated.
03-10-2008, 09:20 PM
Taeth

Re: Lederman gave rd 1 to Diaz?

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Originally Posted by Rican

Over the years I have watched and recorded hundreds of fights. I always marvelled at the accuracy of Lederman's cards. However, he has been slacking lately. Is it time he's led out to pasture and maybe put his daughter in on the HBO telecasts? Maybe each of the prognosticators should post their scorecards as well. Perhaps this would encourage them to watch the fight more carefully and in an unbiased manner, though this does not gurantee being unbiased. :-\

He used to be more accurate, but now he has become hardly so, though he did judge Hopkins-Wright and JMM-Barrera more accurately than the judges.
03-10-2008, 09:22 PM
CutMeMick

Re: Lederman gave rd 1 to Diaz?

I gave Diaz round 1 also...
What's wrong with that?
I felt Diaz connected the cleaner punches.
03-11-2008, 12:02 AM
:::PSL:::

Re: Lederman gave rd 1 to Diaz?

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t77/raybil/jd.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t77/raybil/jd2.jpg
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03-11-2008, 08:07 AM
Althugz

Re: Lederman gave rd 1 to Diaz?

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Originally Posted by Rican

I always marvelled at the accuracy of Lederman's cards. .

I dunno man, he's always been a little bit inconsistent for me..He'll have a few good broadcasts where there is little room for arguement but then he'll have a match where it leaves you thinking ''wtf??''
The one that sticks out the most for me was the De La Hoya vs Jon Jon Molina fight where he scored for Jon Jon. I think he scores too much for just aggresion and not ''effective aggresion''. Another was when he gave the first few rounds of Mayweather vs Chavez to Chavez. Wierd calls.