Is Cotto More To Blame Than PBF?
Look, ive been a huge critic of PBF in the past, but I believe that I am fair in my assesments. Cotto, the champion, just defended his title against a fighter that non threatening opponent. I give him credit for fighting Mosley. That was a challenging fight. Ive critisized Floyd for ducking Cotto, BUT Cotto has been reluctant to pursue that fight himself. He is champion after all and believes he is the best just like Floyd believes he is the best. I blame them both if this fight doesnt happen. And as much as I dont like PBF, hes not entirely to blame if it never happens or happens too late. So my answer is, NO, he is not more to blame but he is equally as guilty as avoiding the fight.
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Look, ive been a huge critic of PBF in the past, but I believe that I am fair in my assesments. Cotto, the champion, just defended his title against a fighter that non threatening opponent. I give him credit for fighting Mosley. That was a challenging fight. Ive critisized Floyd for ducking Cotto, BUT Cotto has been reluctant to pursue that fight himself. He is champion after all and believes he is the best just like Floyd believes he is the best. I blame them both if this fight doesnt happen. And as much as I dont like PBF, hes not entirely to blame if it never happens or happens too late. So my answer is, NO, he is not more to blame but he is equally as guilty as avoiding the fight.
You sort of have a point but right now Floyd wants nothing to do with Cotto.
Yes it would seem as though Cotto wants nothing to do with PBF because Cotto has not called out PBF either at least not with out people trying to put words into his mouth. I guess we will just have to wait and let this whole thing run it's course. Cotto has Tony in July and PBF has Oscar in Sept. PBF is looking for another Hatton fight. The bottom line here is that this call is more Floyd's than it is Cotto's. Maybe we will see them in 2009.
What good is it if Cotto calls out PBF if PBF has already said he wants nothing to do with Cotto until Cotto becomes bigger than the Beatles.
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Alright, you know what, I'm really tired of this bullshit with people saying Floyd needs to call out Cotto. Floyd is the P4P #1 guy right now and he's beaten everyone that's been put in front of him. Cotto is the guy coming up through the ranks and destroying everyone, but's he's not yet been consistently fighting the level of opposition that Mayweather has through the last few years. I mean come on guys, everyone here was giving Alfonso "I'm a damn nobody except I was on Contender" a fighting chance against Cotto before this fight, and now you're saying Mayweather needs to be calling him out? Mayweather is the main draw below heavyweight... and considering that division, that means boxing as a whole. He doesn't need to be calling anyone out. That is SOLELY Cotto's job and if he's not doing it than it all falls on him. If Cotto thinks he has a shot at taking out Mayweather he needs to be shouting it out and getting a fight... I mean HOW did Hatton get the fight... REALLY?
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Alright, you know what, I'm really tired of this bullshit with people saying Floyd needs to call out Cotto. Floyd is the P4P #1 guy right now and he's beaten everyone that's been put in front of him. Cotto is the guy coming up through the ranks and destroying everyone, but's he's not yet been consistently fighting the level of opposition that Mayweather has through the last few years. I mean come on guys, everyone here was giving Alfonso "I'm a damn nobody except I was on Contender" a fighting chance against Cotto before this fight, and now you're saying Mayweather needs to be calling him out? Mayweather is the main draw below heavyweight... and considering that division, that means boxing as a whole. He doesn't need to be calling anyone out. That is SOLELY Cotto's job and if he's not doing it than it all falls on him. If Cotto thinks he has a shot at taking out Mayweather he needs to be shouting it out and getting a fight... I mean HOW did Hatton get the fight... REALLY?
Floyd has the other little queens to hide behind. Queens he beat and queens he will fight again.
Floyd will keep his calendar full or claim he is retired and or hide behind wrestling. Soon both Tony and Cotto will be calling out Floyd but what good will that do? Did it help Tony? Tony wasted a whole year. Floyd misled us all saying he wanted to fight the best and yet he only wants to fight the pre modonas of this sport. Floyd is the pound 4 pound punk and will go down as that ;D
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If I was a Floyd fan, I would be demanding that Floyd call out Cotto or Tony.
Again, what good does it do to Tony and Cotto to call out that pussy floyd is he wont fight them and he has already said he wants nothing to do with the Welters. Floyds fans suck and let their little bitch get away with making them look just as foolish as floyd makes himself look. Birds of a feather I guess.
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Im not knocking Floyd, Im just pointing out the double standard and saying both men are equally responsible in making this fight materialize. In my honest opinion neither guy is too keen on fighting the other, and thats too bad because two undefeated guy ranked in the same weightclass, both champions should fight to prove who is truly the best welterweight. Clottey won the IBF eliminator, so he could fight now IBF Champ Margarito again and Floyd could fight Cotto. The winners of these fights could fight each other to unify the division. Makes sence to me, but it wont happen that way.
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Look, ive been a huge critic of PBF in the past, but I believe that I am fair in my assesments. Cotto, the champion, just defended his title against a fighter that non threatening opponent. I give him credit for fighting Mosley. That was a challenging fight. Ive critisized Floyd for ducking Cotto, BUT Cotto has been reluctant to pursue that fight himself. He is champion after all and believes he is the best just like Floyd believes he is the best. I blame them both if this fight doesnt happen. And as much as I dont like PBF, hes not entirely to blame if it never happens or happens too late. So my answer is, NO, he is not more to blame but he is equally as guilty as avoiding the fight.
cotto was scheduled to fight clottey, in preparation for mayweather i imagine
when mayweather announced that he would only fight ODH this year that fight was changed
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Cotto wanted to fight Floyd at the beginning of the year but once Floyd made it clear he was only interested in mickey Mouse rematches,what is Cotto supposed to do? Wait and waste time like Marg did a couple of years ago?
Cotto is doing the smart thing and I LOVE his attitude. He's making it so that all roads at WW lead to him,because he's beating opponents AT WW and fighting everyone so in the end,everyone will want to fight him. It's already started:Tony,Williams,Cintron,Mosley,Judah-they have all said they want to fight him. As long as Cotto keeps winning,he's doing the smart thing.
Heck,no-one calls Mayweather out anymore because it's a waste of time ESPECIALLY if you're top 5@WW.;) Remember,it's Mayweather calling the shots. If he said he wanted the fight,Miguel would make the fight straight away. He doesn't mention so neither does Cotto. That's smart,not wasting his time.
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BoomBoom
Look, ive been a huge critic of PBF in the past, but I believe that I am fair in my assesments. Cotto, the champion, just defended his title against a fighter that non threatening opponent. I give him credit for fighting Mosley. That was a challenging fight. Ive critisized Floyd for ducking Cotto, BUT Cotto has been reluctant to pursue that fight himself. He is champion after all and believes he is the best just like Floyd believes he is the best. I blame them both if this fight doesnt happen. And as much as I dont like PBF, hes not entirely to blame if it never happens or happens too late. So my answer is, NO, he is not more to blame but he is equally as guilty as avoiding the fight.
I don't think Cotto needs to waste his time calling Mayweather out, because he has everyone else doing it for him.
Last night, HBO mentioned a potential Floyd-Cotto fight a ton of times, and every media article written about the Cotto-Gomez fight mentions Mayweather.
If Cotto beats Margarito in July, HBO is going to spend the whole night talking about Floyd ducking Cotto, and every article is going to mention that Floyd doesn't want to fight Cotto.
When Floyd fights Oscar in September, HBO is going to spend the whole night talking about how Floyd needs to fight Cotto, and every artcle is going to mention Cotto as the guy that Floyd needs to fight.
The longer these guys wait, the more money becomes involved in the fight. If Floyd beats Oscar, and Cotto beats Margarito and then someone else in late '08, then these guys will make millions and millions to fight each other in 2009.
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I dn't think so - i think cotto will be more than happy to face pbf - but like he said at the end of the fight last night - he will face whoever is put in front of him.
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BoomBoom
Look, ive been a huge critic of PBF in the past, but I believe that I am fair in my assesments. Cotto, the champion, just defended his title against a fighter that non threatening opponent. I give him credit for fighting Mosley. That was a challenging fight. Ive critisized Floyd for ducking Cotto, BUT Cotto has been reluctant to pursue that fight himself. He is champion after all and believes he is the best just like Floyd believes he is the best. I blame them both if this fight doesnt happen. And as much as I dont like PBF, hes not entirely to blame if it never happens or happens too late. So my answer is, NO, he is not more to blame but he is equally as guilty as avoiding the fight.
You sort of have a point but right now Floyd wants nothing to do with Cotto.
Yes it would seem as though Cotto wants nothing to do with PBF because Cotto has not called out PBF either at least not with out people trying to put words into his mouth. I guess we will just have to wait and let this whole thing run it's course. Cotto has Tony in July and PBF has Oscar in Sept. PBF is looking for another Hatton fight. The bottom line here is that this call is more Floyd's than it is Cotto's. Maybe we will see them in 2009.
What good is it if Cotto calls out PBF if PBF has already said he wants nothing to do with Cotto until Cotto becomes bigger than the Beatles.
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I think you both make valid points and are correct in that neither fighter right now is the top priority on the other fighter's list, and that's not how it should be. Regardless of what Floyd said, the fact of the matter is he said similar things about Hatton and immediately set the fight once Hatton dissed him. Had Hatton not made that statement about Floyd being 'boring' they still would not have stepped in the ring against each other to this day. By Cotto saying virtually nothing when cameras are in his face, he is in some way creating doubt in some people's mind that he's gung-ho about landing the fight. Likewise, I have no interest in Floyd's career from here on out until he steps in the ring with Cotto. Fortunately, I agree with Merchant in that it will most likely happen in early '09.
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Yea exactly Cotto commented in an interview last week to the local journal , that he don't going waste more his time calling out Mayweather , because" for what I'm going waste my time calling out to person that don't want fight me , i just going fight with other big names and still fighting with who want fight me , i don't going waste my time anymore on that ", that was exactly that he commented , i think that he doing something intelligent , is like GAMO are been saying........;D
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I don't think either fighter is scared of each other. Cotto doesn't wanna waste time with a fight he doesn't feel can be made right now and Mayweather doesn't wanna waste time with a fight that's not at least gonna make him 15-20 Million. I just can't see Arum paying Floyd 20 Million when Arum knows that Floyd could win the fight. But eventually if Cotto defeats Margo, they will HAVE to make the fight because Cotto is gonna start wanting more money to and there are not that many big money making fights in the division except maybe a rematch with Mosley and the Tony fight. Floyd vs Cotto in the summer of 2009.
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Miguel is doing the smart thing and just fighting who Bob Arum puts infront of him.
Floyd on the other hand is more in control of his own career and can pick and choose who he fights. Mayweather is just waiting for PEAK prices on a match up with Cotto.
Floyd can win the fight vs Cotto however he will still pay a huge price just in fighting Cotto.
