DARIUSZ MICHALCZEWSKI V RJJ/CALZAGHE etc etc

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one of my all time favourite fighters,pity he never fought in the states though,its one of my dream fights the RJJ one,calzaghe would have been interesting too,total legend.

he had a hook like a sledge hammer

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K5gp7UQ4GnA,,good good hl vid of him too(eye of the tiger,,lol!)

Ahh...we had this discussion quite a few times here...First of all IMO was a prime RJJ more or less unbeatable,but at light heavy a prime Michalczewski would probably come closest to beating RJJ...he still would have lost,but in a close fight...Michalczewski vs Calzaghe at light heavy(and only there) would have been a win for Dariusz,but then I'm biased...;)

Its just that... Dariusz was a great(and I don't use that word easily) light heavy...one of the best,but also underrated for never fighting really big names with a few exceptions...So its hard to say how he would have done against this guy or that guy...But IMO he had the chance to beat them all except RJJ...

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Ahh...we had this discussion quite a few times here...First of all IMO was a prime RJJ more or less unbeatable,but at light heavy a prime Michalczewski would probably come closest to beating RJJ...he still would have lost,but in a close fight...Michalczewski vs Calzaghe at light heavy(and only there) would have been a win for Dariusz,but then I'm biased...;)

Its just that... Dariusz was a great(and I don't use that word easily) light heavy...one of the best,but also underrated for never fighting really big names with a few exceptions...So its hard to say how he would have done against this guy or that guy...But IMO he had the chance to beat them all except RJJ...

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I think Ottke was a better fighter than Michalczewski

Dariusz was the only German fighter I liked particularly impressed when he beat the Prince. Agreed he would not have beaten RJJ and it would have been very interesting against Galzaghe but I would go with Joe.

Ottke is not even in the same league. He was shit to watch and shit champion who was very very lucky.

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Dariusz was the only German fighter I liked particularly impressed when he beat the Prince. Agreed he would not have beaten RJJ and it would have been very interesting against Galzaghe but I would go with Joe.

Ottke is not even in the same league. He was shit to watch and shit champion who was very very lucky.

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Ottke got some favorable decisions. But he was not without skill. To say he was is just foolish

Make a case for him to beat Dariusz or Joe

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Make a case for him to beat Dariusz or Joe

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Ottke was good defensive fighter. He also had a good jab. I think he would of controlled Dariusz with it. And pecked away to a points win. Dariusz was pretty easy to hit. Ottke and Joe would of been a slap feat.

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Make a case for him to beat Dariusz or Joe

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Ottke was good defensive fighter. He also had a good jab. I think he would of controlled Dariusz with it. And pecked away to a points win. Dariusz was pretty easy to hit. Ottke and Joe would of been a slap feat.

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If the fight would have been at light heavy Ottke would have better come into the fight with his best condition ever...His in and out style took quite some energy out of him...Agreed Dariusz was easy to hit,but at light heavy he would have needed only one good punch to floor Ottke...Sadly the fight didn't happen...

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Make a case for him to beat Dariusz or Joe

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Ottke was good defensive fighter. He also had a good jab. I think he would of controlled Dariusz with it. And pecked away to a points win. Dariusz was pretty easy to hit. Ottke and Joe would of been a slap feat.

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If the fight would have been at light heavy Ottke would have better come into the fight with his best condition ever...His in and out style took quite some energy out of him...Agreed Dariusz was easy to hit,but at light heavy he would have needed only one good punch to floor Ottke...Sadly the fight didn't happen...

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Wasn't Dariusz the one who pulled out

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Ottke was good defensive fighter. He also had a good jab. I think he would of controlled Dariusz with it. And pecked away to a points win. Dariusz was pretty easy to hit. Ottke and Joe would of been a slap feat.

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If the fight would have been at light heavy Ottke would have better come into the fight with his best condition ever...His in and out style took quite some energy out of him...Agreed Dariusz was easy to hit,but at light heavy he would have needed only one good punch to floor Ottke...Sadly the fight didn't happen...

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Wasn't Dariusz the one who pulled out

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The fight should have been this month,but the people who wanted to organize this event werent all that legal and after they failed to fulfil things in the contract Michalczeski pulled indeed upon the advice of his lawyer(s) out...

Oh! boy... Not this one again. :D

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Make a case for him to beat Dariusz or Joe

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Ottke was good defensive fighter. He also had a good jab. I think he would of controlled Dariusz with it. And pecked away to a points win. Dariusz was pretty easy to hit. Ottke and Joe would of been a slap feat.

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Dariusz in his prime would have destroyed Ottke, those little taps would not have deterred him and he would have landed bombs on Ottke and if not stopped him he would have given him a beating.

Why Joe did not fight Ottke is his biggest embarrassment but he easily would have outpointed Ottke if not stopped him with one arm tied behind his back!

i may be in a minority here but i think dariusz would have laid jones out especially on home turf,i cant see jones stopping him,only way he takes it is on points,prime for prime i think DM would catch him eventually,i also think joe would win on points against DM,good style clash!

Yes you are in the minority. :D

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Yes you are in the minority. :D

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yes i know,i saw that coming.