Great Fighters Who Struggled Against Fighters ............

What great fighters struggled against fighters that shouldn't of troubled them on paper.

Mike Weaver vs Larry Holmes
Jim McDonnell vs Azumah Nelson
Doug Jones vs Muhammad Ali
Tony Tubbs vs Riddick Bowe
Jimmy Young vs George Foreman
Junior Jones vs Marco Antonio Barrera
Scott LeDoux vs Ken Norton
Dave Tiberi vs James Toney
James Tillis vs Mike Tyson
Ray Close vs Chris Eubank
Thulani Malinga vs Nigel Benn
Kirkland Laing vs Roberto Duran
Kevin Howard vs Sugar Ray Leonard
Lloyd Honeyghan vs Donald Curry

Theres few to get us started.

That list is a bit inconsistent.

Although underdogs, some of the guys you mentioned were good enough to give ANYONE a decent fight in their pomp.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

That list is a bit inconsistent.

Although underdogs, some of the guys you mentioned were good enough to give ANYONE a decent fight in their pomp.

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Im not saying they couldn't but i meant on paper "before" the fights that most people didn't think they would trouble them on paper.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

That list is a bit inconsistent.

Although underdogs, some of the guys you mentioned were good enough to give ANYONE a decent fight in their pomp.

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Im not saying they couldn't but i meant on paper "before" the fights that most people didn't think they would them on paper.

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Yeah I know what you mean.

But the difference is -

Ray Close vs Chris Eubank = surprise cause Close was average at best

Lloyd Honeyghan vs Donald Curry is different. Although a massive upset Honeyghan was world class.

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Originally Posted by ICB

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Originally Posted by Fenster

That list is a bit inconsistent.

Although underdogs, some of the guys you mentioned were good enough to give ANYONE a decent fight in their pomp.

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Im not saying they couldn't but i meant on paper "before" the fights that most people didn't think they would them on paper.

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Yeah I know what you mean.

But the difference is -

Ray Close vs Chris Eubank = surprise cause Close was average at best

Lloyd Honeyghan vs Donald Curry is different. Although a massive upset Honeyghan was world class.

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I understand what your saying but remember no one knew Honeyghan was world class before the fight, and since Curry was P4P number 1. I assume most boxing fans wouldn't of gave Honeyghan a chance, but point taken i know what your saying.

Hearns v Mark Medal
Hearns v James Kinchen
Hearns v Iran Barkley
Hearns v Doug Dewitt

Tyson v Douglas
Ali v Norton
Loyd Honeyghan v Jorge Vaca
Foreman v Tommy Morrison
Ray Mercer v Jesse Fergerson
a few more :)

Asumah Nelson v Mcdonald is a good one or Ali v Norton, they should have beaten them a lot easier but for some reason had problems with their style of boxing. The same could be said of Paq and Marquez, although Paq for some reason gets the decisions.

Paulie Ayala-Hugo Dianzo
George Foreman-Axel Shutz
Wladimir Klitschko-Darryl Williamson
Manny Pacquiao-Serikzhan Yeshmagabetov
Erik Morales-Guty Espadas Jr
Kevin Kelly-Tommy Parks

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Paulie Ayala-Hugo Dianzo
George Foreman-Axel Shutz
Wladimir Klitschko-Darryl Williamson
Manny Pacquiao-Serikzhan Yeshmagabetov
Erik Morales-Guty Espadas Jr
Kevin Kelly-Tommy Parks

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Foreman vs Schulz is a good one i think Schulz won that one, and Foreman didn't want no part of a rematch either thats why he got stripped of the title.

Styles make fights.

My trainer when I was a little kid used to tell a story of when he was in the army:

He claimed that he could beat everyone in his company in boxing except one guy, and that guy in turn, could only beat him.

The guy had an aggressive forward moving style that he just could not handle.

Styles make fights

Foreman-Briggs ....at that point in their careers Briggs should have handed it to him but Foreman was a beast.

Mercer-Lewis....Ray was limited and Lennox let him in the fight more than he should have.

Cotto-Torres...Torres was a sub and therefore Cotto hadn't prepared for his style but it was ugly.

Ali-Norton....Norton was a fucking body builder and there is no way he should have fought that well vs Ali.

Daniel Santos V Antonio Margerito

Vernon Forrest V Ricardo Mayorga

Ali V Ken Norton

Ruben Olivares v Rafael Herrera

Eder Jofre V Fighting Harada

I have chosen fighters who fought their opponent more than once and struggled or lost when they should have won.

Everyone against Quarry
Jerry just had this talent for not going away,and you could see the frustration on the face of all the high end fighters who fought him
Bugner was the same way

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Daniel Santos V Antonio Margerito

Vernon Forrest V Ricardo Mayorga

Ali V Ken Norton

Ruben Olivares v Rafael Herrera

Eder Jofre V Fighting Harada

I have chosen fighters who fought their opponent more than once and struggled or lost when they should have won.

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Yes i like that -Forrest v Mayorga good one :)

Cooper/Holyfield ?