Edner Cherry seems to be on the up, Johnson on the way down, think is quite an evenly matched contest, who you going for?
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Edner Cherry seems to be on the up, Johnson on the way down, think is quite an evenly matched contest, who you going for?
I think Cherry is a pretty good fighter who isn't quite good enough to make waves at world class, Johnson is beyond finished. Not an even matchup if you ask me.
Bit harsh Johnson has won 3 out of last 4 against better than average opponentsQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Johnson who?
Stevie, JohnsTon actually. Sure you know him, fought Castillo twice years ago.
Apologies always miss that TQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
I think Cherry is a very underrated fighter who was in tough pretty early. He is a warrior though and fights anyone. He did get schooled kind of by Paulie but he was a good shot away from having Paulie flopping around the ring. Paulie was as usual on the backfoot and frustrated him. I don't think Stevie can pull that off, he is 35+ and Cherry hits pretty hard when he can catch ya. Edner is gonna drop a Cherry bomb on Johnston and this will be a little more one sided than it looks on paper. Thats just my opinion, I've been known to be wrong....This matchup sucks because I don't want to see either guy lose.
Last I saw him was against Viv Harris, and he looked completely shot... Since you brought it up I boxrec'ed his last few opponents. Better than average is not really the way I'd label them. The 3 he beat are basically unknown, not quite even journeyman level, who have been KO'ed by anyone good they ever fought. And he was dropped twice than retired against Rolando Reyes, who is a garbage, nothing fighter himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbtandyBit harsh Johnson has won 3 out of last 4 against better than average opponentsQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Think Toledo would be rated as better than averageQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingLast I saw him was against Viv Harris, and he looked completely shot... Since you brought it up I boxrec'ed his last few opponents. Better than average is not really the way I'd label them. The 3 he beat are basically unknown, not quite even journeyman level, who have been KO'ed by anyone good they ever fought. And he was dropped twice than retired against Rolando Reyes, who is a garbage, nothing fighter himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbtandyBit harsh Johnson has won 3 out of last 4 against better than average opponentsQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Stevie Johnston is past it but never really got his just due.A gentleman and slick diverse gutsy boxer.Hey,Its the year of the upsets....Vs. Cherry ?Stevie will come in top form.Really though,Johnston might need to be watched closely for his own sake
Thanks P4P I owed rep anyways.
Yeah this is a mismatch. Cherry is an awesome fighter, one of my favorites to. His bout with Santa Cruz was an all action fight, outstanding bout I think it was on the undercard of the dreadful Castillo-Reyes bill. Great fight and Cherry got done wrong by the judges I've rooted for him ever since.
But yeah Johnston is well past his best days, he looked absolutely horrible against Vivian Harris. Granted he was a late sub but looked bad nonetheless. Haven't seen him since I hate to see him still fighting.
Have you seen him fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbtandyThink Toledo would be rated as better than averageQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingLast I saw him was against Viv Harris, and he looked completely shot... Since you brought it up I boxrec'ed his last few opponents. Better than average is not really the way I'd label them. The 3 he beat are basically unknown, not quite even journeyman level, who have been KO'ed by anyone good they ever fought. And he was dropped twice than retired against Rolando Reyes, who is a garbage, nothing fighter himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbtandy
Ha ha yes a few times actually, he is far from a world beater by any means, but I think better than average is fair. A complete journeyman with equal wins to losses would be considered as average, he is a little better than this but not much. He has beaten a string of nobodies and lost every time he has stepped out of his depthQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingHave you seen him fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbtandyThink Toledo would be rated as better than averageQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
I haven't, but just looking at his record it's pretty clear he's no class fighter.. Fought a bunch of 0-3-2 type guys in Nicaragua, came to the States got stopped in 3 by Humberto Soto, then lost a UD to a shot Stevie Johnston, then got startched in a round by Lamont Peterson, who is a great prospect, but no big puncher. This fight only looks good on paper, trust me. Cherry is actuallya very good, hungry fighter. Perhaps you don't realize this.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbtandyHa ha yes a few times actually, he is far from a world beater by any means, but I think better than average is fair. A complete journeyman with equal wins to losses would be considered as average, he is a little better than this but not much. He has beaten a string of nobodies and lost every time he has stepped out of his depthQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingHave you seen him fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbtandy
have no interest in this, Johnston is way past it. Sad to see a great fighter end his career like this.