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In the wake of floyds retirement, pavliks awesome display and paul williams getting back on track what is now your top 10?
1-Miguel cotto
2-Joe Calzaghe
3-Manny Pacquiao
4-JM Marquez
5-Antonio Margarito
6-Kelly Pavlik
7-Bernard Hopkins
8-Israel Vazquez
9-Ricky Hatton
10-Jorge Linares
I don't know about Cotto as a number 1, but probably a number 4 or so behind Joe, Manny, and probably Pavlik. And I would take out Hatton from the top ten and add Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon.
I wouldnt move Pavlik up any higher after he fought Locket as Locket has never been world class. But that isnt Kellys fault i surppose he only beats whats infront of him.
1. Guzman
2. Calzaghe
3. JM Marquez
4. Pac
5. Cotto
6. Linares
7. Vazquez
8. Haye
9. Hasegawa
10. Pavlik
Don't have a full 10...
1. Pacquiao
2. Calzaghe
3. JM Marquez
4. Cotto
(gap)
5. Hopkins
6. Vazquez
7. Pavlik
8. R Marquez
I think the Top 4 are easy to rank. After that, a lot of guys who could get flipped around.
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Why do you laugh.. ive put him a little low, right ;)
1: Pacman
2: Calzaghe
3: J Marquez
4: Cotto
5: Vasquez
6: Pavlik
7: Guzman
8: R Marquez
9: Calderon
10: Hatton
1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Joe Calzaghe
3. Miguel Cotto
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Israel Vazquez
6. Bernard Hopkins
7. Joan Guzman
8. Rafael Marquez
9. Kelly Pavlik
10. Ricky Hatton
1) Pacquiao
2) Calzaghe
3) Pavlik
4) Cotto
5) JMM
6) Izzy
7) Rafa
8) Calderon
9) Mijares
10) Guzman/Campbell/Casamayor I can't decide on number 10 need some deliberation.
WHy do people rate JMM so high ?
He lost to pac
He lost to Chris John not that long ago (though i didnt see that fight)
He had a very very questionable win against Barrera (and he did get knocked down in that fight!)
He is p4p for sure but above Cotto in some cases!? Cotto is on a long winning streak against very good opponents and def should not be below jmm
To me this is the real one right now :
1- Manny Pacquiao
2- Miguel Cotto
3- Kelly Pavlik
4- Joe Calzague
5- Israel Vasquez
6- Rafael Marquez
7- Winky Wright
8- Ivan Calderon
9- JMM
10- Ricky Hatton
If Pacquiao win his next fight against Diaz , he could still in the first place
If Cotto win his next fight against Margaro , he could still in the second place and both positions depend of their performance in the fight......:cool:
I gotta admit I'm rating him more as a featherweight but in my opinion he beat Pac first time round and only lost the second on a split decision at super. Chris John ain't on his level but yeah he lost to him and he had a couple of points deducted for fouls, I think low blows?Quote:
Originally Posted by Poom
I did struggle with my list though, seemed simple once i started but I stick by it for now.
1.Manny Pacquiao
2.Joe Calzaghe
3.Miguel Cotto
4.Kristian Mijares
5.Israel Vasquez
6.Kelly Pavlik
7.Juan Manuel Marquez
8.Antonio Margarito
9.Joel Casamayor
10.Rafeal Marquez
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Originally Posted by KelI gotta admit I'm rating him more as a featherweight but in my opinion he beat Pac first time round and only lost the second on a split decision at super. Chris John ain't on his level but yeah he lost to him and he had a couple of points deducted for fouls, I think low blows?Quote:
Originally Posted by Poom
I did struggle with my list though, seemed simple once i started but I stick by it for now.
He beat pac both times if you ask me
I had him winning both fights by a point.
You have to be a world class athlete to go toe to toe with manny pac for 24rds and JMM did it.
I went for linares over diaz solely on the fact i feel he is a better prospect.