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Its on another website, this has seemed inevitable lately, they just have to make it official. Apparently both sides have agreed in principle, they just have to work out things like the TV network, apparently HBO and Showtime are both interested but Showtime has the better date.
Nice fight, really looking forward to it as a fan of Guzman. Tough first fight at a new weight class for Joan but I'm favoring him.
Poor Nate CAmpbell. I like him, always have for some reason, and I was hoping he'd have a nice little reign at LW to go out on, a few decent paydays. I'd pick him to beat Casa, Diaz again, Kats, Pac if he stays at LW, pretty much anyone but Guzman he has an excellent chance against imo. I guess it isn't a sure thing Guzman beats him but Joan is by far the toughest guy for anyone to fight at LW right now imo, and that's having not even seen him at the weight.
I'm not sure there's a real big payday out there for Nate to be honest. I mean except for Pac but I personally don't see Pac fighting him, even if he beat Joan. Not sure Casa's a real big payday. I do agree he'd beat most guys, he'd ruin Katsidis. But I do think Guzman will win, its probably the worst matchup for Nate out there right now.
This is a really good match-up IMO. Tough fight for both guys. I'd have to favor Guzman also but I'll be rooting for Nate!
Hard hard to pick, i'll take guzman
Yea maybe.. I just get the impression Guzman doesn't have much drawing power at all. Im sure any of those guys would present at least as much money for CAmpbell, and a much more winnable fight. Not to say I'm not excited about this fight, I'd just like to see Campbell win. I guess Guzman deserves the payday as well, and it is a great fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Where Guzman is concerned nothing is ever certain.. annoyingly :-\
So many brilliant fights at lightweight, none look bad.. this is probably bad for Nate though.
I'm a bit worried for Guzman he'll "go" overnight. If not, hopefully the titles help him get some "star" names, and he wont be so bloody inactive.
Im still not completely sold on guzman, sure he can box but nothing like floyd. I think his being a bit overhype, his already up in his 30's with no huge win on his resume. So is Nate and Casa but they've been in better fighters with better fighters. I think Nate or Casa can take guzman out of the hype list. I can't see guzman really being dominant against any top lightweights right now, Pac JMM Nate Casa. NOUN. IMO all will be eliminated and we will be back to square one and the two remain yet again will be Pac and JMM, then we can have another fucking crazy lets get drunk and fight Pac vs JMM 3 type night!!! ;D
Guzman is the best Lightweight at the moment and i would pick him to beat everyone at Lightweight including Pacquiao, a fight with Marquez would be a pick em though.
i really don't get why? what has he done anyways? plus his like 35 now and he hasn't fought at lightweight. its insulting to casa and nate. Not so for JMM and Pac cause they too haven't fought at the weight, and those two are the two best at the weight guzman formerly was. Not even just two of the best in a weight class but maybe top two p4p fighter right now and I aint seen guzman scrape top ten at the least p4p ranking.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
I think you guys should reconsider about guzman being the best at lightweight, imo his likely to end up smashed up by the other top fighters.
Nate has the power to turn this fight, no doubt Guzman will be backpeddling from the first bell. Soto gave Guzman problems when he cornered him, but his problem was he hardly ever cornered him. Nate has way better ring generalship than that, I'm sticking with Campbell. Guzman has only impressed me with his speed so far.
What is it insulting to Casa or Nate ?? its purely my opinion that skill wise he is the best whats wrong in that ?? he has one of the quickiest hands, he reminds me of Mayweather especially with the shoulder roll, he has the quickiest feet. And boxing skills wise he is right up there with the very best at the moment, i know your not high on Guzman but i am and i will for certain bet that Guzman beats Pacquiao if that fight happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Raini really don't get why? what has he done anyways? plus his like 35 now and he hasn't fought at lightweight. its insulting to casa and nate. Not so for JMM and Pac cause they too haven't fought at the weight, and those two are the two best at the weight guzman formerly was. Not even just two of the best in a weight class but maybe top two p4p fighter right now and I aint seen guzman scrape top ten at the least p4p ranking.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
I think you guys should reconsider about guzman being the best at lightweight, imo his likely to end up smashed up by the other top fighters.
well its because casa and nate are legit lightweights that has cement accomplishments, ok then its just your oppinion like you said. Plus i am sure you will bet guzman will beat pac ;D 90% of the time you pick pacs oppenent :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ICBWhat is it insulting to Casa or Nate ?? its purely my opinion that skill wise he is the best whats wrong in that ?? he has one of the quickiest hands, he reminds me of Mayweather especially with the shoulder roll, he has the quickiest feet. And boxing skills wise he is right up there with the very best at the moment, i know your not high on Guzman but i am and i will for certain bet that Guzman beats Pacquiao if that fight happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Raini really don't get why? what has he done anyways? plus his like 35 now and he hasn't fought at lightweight. its insulting to casa and nate. Not so for JMM and Pac cause they too haven't fought at the weight, and those two are the two best at the weight guzman formerly was. Not even just two of the best in a weight class but maybe top two p4p fighter right now and I aint seen guzman scrape top ten at the least p4p ranking.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
I think you guys should reconsider about guzman being the best at lightweight, imo his likely to end up smashed up by the other top fighters.
Im gonna go watch more of guzman, but i would never compare him to floyd. Floyd by 28 had accomplished ten times more then guzman has up to this point right now. Skill wise, i think its just a case of fans of floyds style being high on it but yet on an older less known fighter and less than half the accomplishment of the original floyd. it will end as soon as he steps up his level of oppenent, unlike floyd.
I thought he gave Soto a boxing lesson i only had Soto winning a couple of rounds, yes Soto did corner Guzman but that was few a far between. Even great fighters like Mayweather and Jones got cornered from time to time, but Guzman still dominated most of the action against Soto.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Guzman don't carry no weight to the negotiation table. That's why he can be AVOIDED by the "stars".. and why he got his title robbed off him messing about trying to defend in Scotland.
Like Ice.. I too would back Guzman all day long to beat Pac. Fact.