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He is just afraid to fight the top guys at his weight. :rolleyes:
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It's not about race:
I glorify black fighters like Mosely, Lennox Lewis, Leonard, Foreman, Wright and Taylor because of the CLASS and HUMILITY they bring in and out of the ring.
Regarding pound for pound status:
PAC has fought the best in his weight class namely JMM, Barrera and Morales and he calls him a bum:rolleyes:
Aside from winning in a boring fight against an ageing ODLH, who did PBF beat in the 147 pound division worth mentioning. For all we know he retired because the likes of COTTO, MARGARITO, BERTO and WILLIAMS would whoop his ass bigtime.
He maybe remembered as one of the best skilled fighters of the sport, but the fact remains that he will never be considered a boxing HERO. NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I don't think it's so much about race as it is about excitement. PBF has never been considered a terribly exciting fighter, and many of his fights didn't have much of a competitive element to them because he was far superior to his opposition. Pavlik is being pimped by HBO because he's a very exciting fighter who is willing to take on all comers, with a story-line behind him which many American's can relate to. No one can really relate to being raised in a boxing family and of being put in the gym from the age of 5, but many can identify with hardship and battling tooth and nail to overcome that hardship, whatever form it may have taken.
Exciting fighters bring more viewers and more cash to HBO, so they promote them (and whoever else is hot at the moment) in order to make as much money as they possibly can.
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Im a Mayweather fan but that was utter BS :rolleyes:
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just proves to me that Mayweather will be back fighting, he retires no one really cares, so to make some noise he comes out with this bs. He can't stand not been in the limelight.
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No idea where this has come from
HBO announcers used to cream over mayweather and at times make him appear almost invincible.
Only time i genuinely had a grievance with them was the 1st castillo fight which lederman scored to castillo by a couple of rounds when i and most people had it for mayweather which it was rightfully given to.
In all honesty the only bias i ever see from HBO seems to be their insistance that the busier fighter is always winning the tight rounds despite the fact the other guy has usually done far more damage.
I swear if lederman had scored all of hopkins fights officially he`d now have a record of like 41-13;D
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Ironically, I think the HBO announcer who has been most critical of Floyd has been Manny Steward.
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He's playing the race card now??
This kinda shyt makes me sick:-\
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hattonthehammer
No idea where this has come from
HBO announcers used to cream over mayweather and at times make him appear almost invincible.
Only time i genuinely had a grievance with them was the 1st castillo fight which lederman scored to castillo by a couple of rounds when i and most people had it for mayweather which it was rightfully given to.
In all honesty the only bias i ever see from HBO seems to be their insistance that the busier fighter is always winning the tight rounds despite the fact the other guy has usually done far more damage.
I swear if lederman had scored all of hopkins fights officially he`d now have a record of like 41-13;D
I don't see how Mayweather done more damage on Castillo he mostly only landed jabs, the only time he actually stood and traded and done damage on Castillo was in the 11th round, and even in that round he was out punched. I thought Castillo won by 1 point but Lederman's scorecard of Castillo winning by 4 points was ridiculous, but in my mind Mayweather didn't do enough to take the champions title away from him and this is a Mayweather fan talking here. I know Mayweather had a shoulder injury and he won 2nd fight convincing but i still think Mayweather should have 1 loss on his record.
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ICB
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Originally Posted by
hattonthehammer
No idea where this has come from
HBO announcers used to cream over mayweather and at times make him appear almost invincible.
Only time i genuinely had a grievance with them was the 1st castillo fight which lederman scored to castillo by a couple of rounds when i and most people had it for mayweather which it was rightfully given to.
In all honesty the only bias i ever see from HBO seems to be their insistance that the busier fighter is always winning the tight rounds despite the fact the other guy has usually done far more damage.
I swear if lederman had scored all of hopkins fights officially he`d now have a record of like 41-13;D
I don't see how Mayweather done more damage on Castillo he mostly only landed jabs, the only time he actually stood and traded and done damage on Castillo was in the 11th round, and even in that round he was out punched. I thought Castillo won by 1 point but Lederman's scorecard of Castillo winning by 4 points was ridiculous, but in my mind Mayweather didn't do enough to take the champions title away from him and this is a Mayweather fan talking here. I know Mayweather had a shoulder injury and he won 2nd fight convincing but i still think Mayweather should have 1 loss on his record.
Castillo wasnt half as effective in those middle/late rounds as they were making out, sure he was the busier fighter and hurt floyd on a few occasions. But they gave like 7 of those last 8 rounds to JLC when floyd had taken at least 3 of them.
Another instance of lederman judging with his heart and not his head was the marq-barrera fight.
Everyone could clearly see marquez was winning the fight with ease accept for harold who was scoring every single close round to MAB.
I gave all but 2 rounds to JMM and was relieved as fuck when the judges also saw it that way as i was briefly beggining to think i was going mad
:furious:
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If PBF could just comeback and face Cotto and Margarito then he would probably get more respect, it's almost like when people criticize Pacquiao for not facing JMM 3rd time and Joan Guzman:)
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Phil
just proves to me that Mayweather will be back fighting, he retires no one really cares, so to make some noise he comes out with this bs. He can't stand not been in the limelight.
Exactly. Great point made here and I think your right he will be back!
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Originally Posted by
hattonthehammer
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Originally Posted by
ICB
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Originally Posted by
hattonthehammer
No idea where this has come from
HBO announcers used to cream over mayweather and at times make him appear almost invincible.
Only time i genuinely had a grievance with them was the 1st castillo fight which lederman scored to castillo by a couple of rounds when i and most people had it for mayweather which it was rightfully given to.
In all honesty the only bias i ever see from HBO seems to be their insistance that the busier fighter is always winning the tight rounds despite the fact the other guy has usually done far more damage.
I swear if lederman had scored all of hopkins fights officially he`d now have a record of like 41-13;D
I don't see how Mayweather done more damage on Castillo he mostly only landed jabs, the only time he actually stood and traded and done damage on Castillo was in the 11th round, and even in that round he was out punched. I thought Castillo won by 1 point but Lederman's scorecard of Castillo winning by 4 points was ridiculous, but in my mind Mayweather didn't do enough to take the champions title away from him and this is a Mayweather fan talking here. I know Mayweather had a shoulder injury and he won 2nd fight convincing but i still think Mayweather should have 1 loss on his record.
Castillo wasnt half as effective in those middle/late rounds as they were making out, sure he was the busier fighter and hurt floyd on a few occasions. But they gave like 7 of those last 8 rounds to JLC when floyd had taken at least 3 of them.
Another instance of lederman judging with his heart and not his head was the marq-barrera fight.
Everyone could clearly see marquez was winning the fight with ease accept for harold who was scoring every single close round to MAB.
I gave all but 2 rounds to JMM and was relieved as fuck when the judges also saw it that way as i was briefly beggining to think i was going mad
:furious:
I thought Barrera vs Marquez was a very close fight personally and theres no way on earth Marquez won 10 rounds out of 12, and i just can't see how you could have Mayweather winning 3 rounds after the 5th round, i would be curious what rounds you gave Mayweather after the 5th round.
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Mayweather is right, But I dont think it is a boxing problem, I think it is a society problem. Black fighter dont sell to those who bring the money to the sport. For what reason, It could be jealousy, people just tired of black fighters, A look for a great Non black HOPE. I see that in a fighter like Paul Williams. For some reason I dont think he is liked much in the mix of the WW division because he is a threat to the non black hopes. When Campbell beat Diaz was bad for the sport. I just think SOME Black athletes rub some people the wrong way with the arrogent attitudes. Sports is also a testimony to manhood and jealousy plays a big part. Let the man speak his peace because we live in the most ARROGENT country in the world.(USA) He is a product of his envornment. Most arrogent president,fighters, country in general. Hipocrits rule the Media, airways and all forms of this society. When 2 people of different colors do the same thing it is looked at differently. Solution is to be FAIR across the board. If u hate black arrogents but love other arrogents and see that as pride then the problem still remains. DONT BE HIPOCRITS.