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I just want people's opinions on who Wlad would beat or would be beaten by out of the guys Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield, etc fought to earn their greatness for example:
Donovan Rudduck
Tommy Morrison
Frank Bruno
Mitch Green
James Tillis
James Smith
David Tua
Shannon Briggs
Tony Tucker
Hasim Rahman
Michael Moorer
Andrew Golota
Michael Dokes
Pinklon Thomas
Michael Spinks
Renoldo Snipes
Tim Witherspoon
Trevor Berbick
I'm just curious to what everyone thinks
Of them I honestly think he would beat Berbick, Snipes, Maybe Pinklon and Dokes, Golota, Rahman, Maybe Tucker, Briggs, Tillis, Green, Bruno. The rest I think would have beaten Wlad In their heydays. Also i'm not the biggest Tyson fan by the way as barring a very old Larry Holmes every other LEGEND he fought beat him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
I think Tommy Morrison would have beat him out of shear determination, If the young Morrison fought on the inside of Klitschko jab he would rough him up. Klitschko does not handle pressure well. And Morrison presents a ass load of pressure. But if he chose to fight him like he did Lewis it could be an early night for Wlad.
With that being said, I say Morrison catches early and would not let him off the hook
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaPgBAT39no
He beats pretty much all of those guys
I know about Tyson....he did fight Spinks who was a great fighter but only at lightheavyweight.
So the guys you have beating Wlad are: Rudduck, Morrison, Tua, Smith, Witherspoon, and Moorer.
I see Wlad only having trouble with a prime Shannon Briggs because he was big he could take a punch and was active in the ring.
I would go with Ruddock,Bruno,Witherspoon,Briggs and perhaps Tua to beat him he beats the rest but i would give berbick,tucker,Golota and Morrison a chance.
Yeah I think he'd easily outbox Shannon though. Straightforward fight for Wlad. To me he would struggle with a smaller heavy thats always in his face.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Donovan Rudduck Wladimir loses by KOQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Tommy Morrison Wladimir wins by TKO
Frank Bruno Wladimir loses by KO
Mitch Green Wladimir wins by KO
James Tillis Wladimir wins by KO
James Smith Wladimir loses by KO
David Tua Wladimir wins by UD
Shannon Briggs Wladimir wins by KO
Tony Tucker Wladimir loses by TKO
Hasim Rahman Wladimir wins by TKO
Michael Moorer Wladimir loses by KO
Andrew Golota Wladimir loses by TKO
Michael Dokes Wladimir wins by KO
Pinklon Thomas Wladimir wins by KO
Michael Spinks Wladimir wins by KO
Renoldo Snipes Wladimir wins by TKO
Tim Witherspoon Wladimir loses by KO
Trevor Berbick Wladimir wins by KO
I'll take a crack at it, Lyle.....
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Originally Posted by Lyle
I like that list. Except Briggs loses by big fat asthma douche. And claims he just fought like a warrior and is the baddest man around...Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanI'll take a crack at it, Lyle.....
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Originally Posted by Lyle
I'm not shocked about people picking Bruno or Morrison to beat Wlad but Rudduck???
Those guys couldn't really box...Morrison did but vs a very slow George Foreman, Wlad is athletic and his jab is pretty damn good.
From how Wlad has been beaten before you either have to be able to sneak a punch in there and nail him and never let up or you have to take a beating and withstand until Wlad gets tired and those times are coming fewer and fewer as Wlad is fighting smarter. The guys who could do that are: Tua, Morrison, and Rahman. Tua has never been KO'd, Morrison fought with heart and could take a beating, and Rahman could sneak a big punch in, he did it to Lewis.
I don't see why people pick Bruno to win but I understand why they would like him to win, because he's the only true British heavyweight that was any good from the last couple of years....Lennox was Canadian/Jamaican/British so he wasn't 100% British the way Bruno was
Razor Ruddock was a huge puncher and i can see him catching Wladimir Klitschko at some point and as for Frank Bruno he had terrific jab and was also a big puncher and was very dangerous in the first 6 rounds i can see him landing his big over hand right on Wladimir at some point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
I know they are both big punchers but they had trouble with the top level fighters. I would compare Rudduck to Sam Peter and Bruno to Hasim Rahman....Bruno got beat by the likes of Witherspoon and Smith and Rudduck never really had a close fight with any prime top tier fighter the closest he got was going the distance with Tyson.
The thing is Frank Bruno lost to Bonecrusher Smith and Tim Witherspoon because they were able to wishstand Frank Bruno's power in the first 6 rounds because they were always durable which Wladimir isn't. And Frank Bruno lost in the later rounds down to confidence problems and stamina issues due too much muscle mass plus i can't see Wladimir surviving that long against Frank Bruno and plus Wladimir does have few stamina issues himself. I can see your argument regarding Razor Ruddock because he was sloppy at that times but funny enough i've seen few sparring clips of Razor Ruddock where he showed good skills and used his jab to good effect its quite strange he never showed those skills when he actually got down to fighting and just realied on his half left uppercut/half left hook the "smash"Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Rudduck had plenty of potential but yeah he fought sloppy....Frank Bruno still doesn't really impress me, I mean who did he ever beat?