Definition of a Glass/weak/china CHIN!!!
If your punch resistance is evidently fragile - as in you get hurt by NON-punchers when getting hit anywhere above the neck - that means you have a glass/weak/china chin, right?
There's not such a thing as a glass/weak/china TEMPLE fighter, right?
If you can't take a shot you can't take shot. And that's all she wrote. Fact.
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There's something to be said about how/where the punch lands though. Look at Mundine, badly ko'd by Ottke on a punch to the temple that didn't look all that impressive, yet he was able to withstand flush shots from a guy like Kessler, who has way more power than Ottke.
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If your punch resistance is evidently fragile - as in you get hurt by NON-punchers when getting hit anywhere above the neck - that means you have a glass/weak/china chin, right?
There's not such a thing as a glass/weak/china TEMPLE fighter, right?
If you can't take a shot you can't take shot. And that's all she wrote. Fact.
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Yea but how do you explain this Fenster Anthony Mundine was KO'ed witha temple shot from a light hitter like Sven Ottke but managed to survive a 12 round wat against a big puncher in Mikkel Kessler.........
I understand what your saying but your wrong in some aspects because its well known fact if you get hit in the temple with a hard shot the chances are quite high your lights are going out even if it isn't against a big puncher and it doesn't mean you have a weak punch resistance either.......
Even Antonio Margarito was staggered from a temple shot from Daniel Santos............
Lol CFH just looked at your post and you was thinking the same as me thats exactly how i feel aswell.
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Yeah.. there's probably "freak" shots that have a marked effect on iron-chinned fighters - Gatti put Ward on queer street with a punch around the ear area - if i remember right.
Mundine turned into a very defensive minded fighter though. Did Kessler really cream him throughout their fight? Mundine fights like a "scared to get hit" fighter.
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Tell me of some iron-chinned fighters that have been visibly shaken by temple shots?
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Yeah.. there's probably "freak" shots that have a marked effect on iron-chinned fighters - Gatti put Ward on queer street with a punch around the ear area - if i remember right.
Mundine turned into a very defensive minded fighter though. Did Kessler really cream him throughout their fight? Mundine fights like a "scared to get hit" fighter.
Kessler didn't "cream" him, but he hit him with some flush right hands that would've dropped/stopped a glass-chinned fighter.
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Yeah.. there's probably "freak" shots that have a marked effect on iron-chinned fighters - Gatti put Ward on queer street with a punch around the ear area - if i remember right.
Mundine turned into a very defensive minded fighter though. Did Kessler really cream him throughout their fight? Mundine fights like a "scared to get hit" fighter.
Kessler didn't "cream" him, but he hit him with some flush right hands that would've dropped/stopped a glass-chinned fighter.
I think Mundine had learnt to run.
So.. you think Mundine isn't glass-chinned even though he was KO'd by a proper powderpuff in Ottke?
That is Interesting. :scratchchin:
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Never under estimate a solid temple/ear shot :fight:.Seems your mind is still right but the system shorts out.
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Tell me of some iron-chinned fighters that have been visibly shaken by temple shots?
Antonio Margarito against Daniel Santos, Marvin Hagler against Thomas Hearns.
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Yeah.. there's probably "freak" shots that have a marked effect on iron-chinned fighters - Gatti put Ward on queer street with a punch around the ear area - if i remember right.
Mundine turned into a very defensive minded fighter though. Did Kessler really cream him throughout their fight? Mundine fights like a "scared to get hit" fighter.
Kessler didn't "cream" him, but he hit him with some flush right hands that would've dropped/stopped a glass-chinned fighter.
I think Mundine had learnt to run.
So.. you think Mundine isn't glass-chinned even though he was KO'd by a proper powderpuff in Ottke?
That is Interesting. :scratchchin:
What I'm saying is that I don't think it is as simple as that. Mundine still has some question marks around his chin because of the Ottke fight and probaby always will. However, he can't be all that fragile as he'd fought some decent punchers since that fight and has yet to be stopped.
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Tell me of some iron-chinned fighters that have been visibly shaken by temple shots?
Antonio Margarito against Daniel Santos, Marvin Hagler against Thomas Hearns.
Great call;)
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Here Fenster check this highlight out its Margarito vs Santos 2 watch Margarito get stunned by temple shot round about 1:10.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKIjN...eature=related
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Yeah - Margarito like Hagler wasn't hurt to point of falling all over the shop.. and they were BOTH being hit by tremendous punchers.
If they had china-chins/temples they would have been OUT ;)
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;D nice vid......Im possibly in the minority here but I really think Tony was on his way to inflicting serious hurt on Santos as it was going down the stretch.I had him up by 2 points when it was stopped :-X
The only thing china related about Margarito are some of his home electronics.