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Im a hater of Calzaghe myself but my god its been crazy over the last week or so with all the threads and hate for Calzaghe. Mind you as ive said earlier i didn't like his comment on trailer for next episode of 24/7 another Yank will fall bit of a stupid comment that but what do expect with a dad like Enzo. Shouldn't we be moving on now and wait for the Calzaghe vs Jones fight its taking over the board LOL;D
the main threads have been about his resume and if he was so great the his RESUME shouldnt be as issue now WOULD IT;D
shouldn't be an issue would it? :confused: :-\
You should always read things back to yourself before posting them... ;)
I was talkin about joes resume being so DEBATABLE and if he was so great like some people say then his resume should be debatable NOW WOULD IT ;D
If we all liked the same fighters this place would suck...it's fun hearing REASONABLE arguments for and against fighters...joe been champ (reguardless of how he's done it) for like a billion years, is undefeated, so he's far from garbage but i just think there's more he could have done earlier in his career to silence his critics a bit if that's what he wanted to do. Seems a little late now. Those who like him will those who don't wont. Beating roy jones won't change that, just like loosing to jones shouldn't change those who have positive feelings about the guy.
Nearly every champion will have his resume scrutinized one way or another. If you stay in one weight class too long, your ducking bigger fighters, if you move up, your running from someone, if you score an impressive win, your opponent was overrated to begin with, if you lose, you sucked all along and merely got exposed. From being protected to outpricing yourself, there are only a handful of fighters who have been able to earn universal respect.
im not a great fan of joe c. but its a great record he has got and he can box. he is a bit of a w#'ker for not fighting roy in his prime but thats history.
this is present day, and this is what is happening now.
A great joe c vs an old roy jones..i hope roy wins but after seeing 24/7 and his training partners it dont look too good..but perhaps he knows something we all dont know.
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Originally Posted by match
Calzaghe would have beaten Pavlik (that we can agree on).
But his style is AWFUL and his attitude too.
Not a fan.
The Calzaghe hates borders on the obsessive and its trite and pathetic.
Its my perception that Calzaghe provokes such a reaction for a number of reasons. I think one of the main reasons is that Calzaghe is a very decent looking guy. Whereas the majority of posters and boxers in general are ugly or just plain looking. Harsh, but probably true, a jealousy thing with a little sprinkling of envy. Look at Margarito, Hopkins and Pavlik. They are big names and they are all plain or ugly. They certainly dont provoke so much a reaction as Calzaghe.
Calzaghe is cocky, arrogant and sure of himself. That probably rubs people up the wrong way too. But the guy is unbeaten, extremely skilled at what he does. He knows he's a bloody good fighter. He has every right to indulge in his whims every now and then in interviews and contradict himself. Most of us do anyway, why should it be any different for Joe because a camera is there.
And Calzaghe's resume is very decent. Compare it to most other big names out there. Calzaghe has fought a number of very credible opponents. He's clearly stepped it up a notch over the past few years with Kessler, Lacy and Hopkins. Only Manfredo can be critisized in recent times. And the Jones fight is one of the biggest money fights that can be made. MSG, home and US interest...it will do well for both men.
The haters can keep on hating, but screw them. They are just ugly bastards with axes to grind. :-X;D
Great posting Miles I totally agree. I have always admitted my loathing for David Haye comes about frankly because I am offended by his ridiculous level of 'buffness' and the fact that millions of girls want to have sex with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Calzaghe though is more of a quiet homely type and so doesn't get my jealousy buds tickling.
Plus I imagine that Joe is only averagely endowed whereas Haye is no doubt swinging a Grand National winning tackle down there, and my jealous little black heart can't stand it :mad:
Exactly. I see nothing to hate in Calzaghe whatsoever. My only critisism is that he did have a few too many fillers after beating Eubank. But when called on to beat good fighters, he has always got the job done.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboGreat posting Miles I totally agree. I have always admitted my loathing for David Haye comes about frankly because I am offended by his ridiculous level of 'buffness' and the fact that millions of girls want to have sex with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Calzaghe though is more of a quiet homely type and so doesn't get my jealousy buds tickling.
Plus I imagine that Joe is only averagely endowed whereas Haye is no doubt swinging a Grand National winning tackle down there, and my jealous little black heart can't stand it :mad:
I think Joe comes across as a fairly normal guy. The stay home type, likes simple comforts, has a bit of an arrogant streak when he gets hungry. Most people can relate to that.
As for David Haye. Well, I just think he looks like a laughing hyena. I can't take him seriously at all. And his hair is gay 80% of the time. And he looks like a complete homosexual in Leftlee's avatar with those waving Union Jack's. It has nothing to do with his penis, as far as I am conciously aware. But subconciously, I couldnt say. Haye comes across to me as being all flash and no substance. He probably reads books upsidedown and thinks he's looking cool in a pair of spectacles.
This thread was mainly to point out that were all just rambling on about Calzaghe thread after thread over the last week lets get back to the world of boxing and different topics.
Kind of ironic since you started yet another thread about it lol ;D
Yeah, its Calzaghe this and that all over the show. The guy stokes up a lot of debate. So much so that I dont think Ive read properly through loads of the recent pages posted up about him. Ive a funny feeling its only going to get worse as the fight gets closer though. :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno