WBC on the verge of stripping Pacquiao and Pavlik

WBC mandatories decided!
By Boxing Bob Newman(Fightnews.com)
Mandatory defenses were the long awaited order of Day 4 at the WBC convention. Discussions were had concerning everything from purse bid dates to mandatory periods and a myriad of other related topics. The following is an attempt to present a semi-clear view of what transpired...

Super Feather: Vacant
Interim champ Humberto Soto has not paid his sanctioning fees from his last fight with Francisco Lorenzo. The WBC will insist that those fees be paid within fifteen days otherwise Soto will be stripped. In the meantime, #1 Urbano Antilon will meet #3 Thong Por Chokchai for the first mandatory position and #4 Rocky Juarez will meet #5 Humberto Mauro Gutierrez for the second mandatory.

Light:
Manny Pacquiao must first pay his past due $30,000 sanctioning fee from his title winning effort against David Diaz withing fifteen days from now. Secondly, he is required by WBC rules as a reigning champion fighting above the weight, to pay a 1% fee from the purse for his upcoming fight with Oscar DeLaHoya on December 6, 2008. If he fails to pay the $30,000 fee first and on time, he will be stripped. In the meantime, #1 Edwin Valero and #2 Antonio Pitalua will clash for the interim title.

Super Light:
Champion Timothy Bradley has a mandatory defense due May 10, 2009. Don King wants his charge Devon Alexander to be the next challenger for Bradley. Gary Shaw and Alex Camponovo want their charge Bradley to have a voluntary defense against the winner of the December clash for the WBO belt between Ricardo Torres and Kendall Holt. The WBC does not want that fight to be for the WBO belt, only for the WBC belt and only if the winner agree to fight the mandatory WBC challenger, be it Alexander, the winner of #2 Junior Witter and #3 Ajose Olusegun eliminator or an eliminator between #1 Alexander and #2 Witter.


Middle:
Kelly Pavlik has also not paid his past sanctioning fees from both the optional defense against Gary Lockett and the catchweight fight versus Bernard Hopkins. The 15 day deadline will apply for Pavlik to pay, lest he be stripped of his title. His mandatory is Marco Antonio Rubio.


Heavy:
Vitali Klitschko recently regained the title he never lost in the ring by vanquishing reigning champion Samuel Peter. As a condition of the negotiations that went into making that fight, Klitschko was not given the option of a voluntary defense in the event that he won. Current mandatory #1 contender Juan Carlos Gomez has won two elimination matches (against Oliver McCall and Vladimir Virchis) and has been awaiting his chance patiently to challenge for the WBC heavyweight title, regardless of who held it. The WBC unanimously voted to grant Gomez his title fight immediately against Klitschko. No requests for a voluntary defense will be granted. As Champion Emeritus, Klitschko was granted a special privilege to try and regain his crown and now the WBC wants to follow its own rules and not keep the mandatory challengers waiting any longer.

Pavlik already got stripped and ass raped by hopkins.

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Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer

Pavlik already got stripped and ass raped by hopkins.

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LOL its funny cause its true;D

Why would Pavlik have to pay them for the Hopkins fight?

If I was Pavlik I would dump the WBC belt.

The WBC are nothing but a bunch or crooks.

Weird,the sanctioning fees are supposed to come directly out of purse. Me smells a manager who's double dipping. Most of the time you dont even discuss sanctioning fees when you negotiate, its an assumed.

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Weird,the sanctioning fees are supposed to come directly out of purse. Me smells a manager who's double dipping. Most of the time you dont even discuss sanctioning fees when you negotiate, its an assumed.

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Why would there be a sanctioning fee for Hopkins/Pavlik? It was not for any title.

Even the Lockett fight was a WBO mandatory. Did the WBC even sanction it?

Now the WBC wants $150,000 from Pac for fighting Oscar? time for another belt to be dumped.

The WBC demands 1% of their champions purses for non-title fights. If you remember there was a story about how pissed Pavlik was when he fought Taylor the second time because he had to pay the WBC 30K.


Also there is no way Pac man is giving the WBC 1% of his De la Hoya purse. You better believe he will drop that belt.

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Weird,the sanctioning fees are supposed to come directly out of purse. Me smells a manager who's double dipping. Most of the time you dont even discuss sanctioning fees when you negotiate, its an assumed.

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Why would there be a sanctioning fee for Hopkins/Pavlik? It was not for any title.

Even the Lockett fight was a WBO mandatory. Did the WBC even sanction it?

Now the WBC wants $150,000 from Pac for fighting Oscar? time for another belt to be dumped.

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My guess is they organizations view voluntary defenses as a champions break from their belt. They want to be "reimbursed" for their belt not earning potential money for the duration of training and recovery of the champion after a non title match.

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WBC mandatories decided!
By Boxing Bob Newman(Fightnews.com)
Mandatory defenses were the long awaited order of Day 4 at the WBC convention. Discussions were had concerning everything from purse bid dates to mandatory periods and a myriad of other related topics. The following is an attempt to present a semi-clear view of what transpired...

Super Feather: Vacant
Interim champ Humberto Soto has not paid his sanctioning fees from his last fight with Francisco Lorenzo. The WBC will insist that those fees be paid within fifteen days otherwise Soto will be stripped. In the meantime, #1 Urbano Antilon will meet #3 Thong Por Chokchai for the first mandatory position and #4 Rocky Juarez will meet #5 Humberto Mauro Gutierrez for the second mandatory.

Light:
Manny Pacquiao must first pay his past due $30,000 sanctioning fee from his title winning effort against David Diaz withing fifteen days from now. Secondly, he is required by WBC rules as a reigning champion fighting above the weight, to pay a 1% fee from the purse for his upcoming fight with Oscar DeLaHoya on December 6, 2008. If he fails to pay the $30,000 fee first and on time, he will be stripped. In the meantime, #1 Edwin Valero and #2 Antonio Pitalua will clash for the interim title.

Super Light:
Champion Timothy Bradley has a mandatory defense due May 10, 2009. Don King wants his charge Devon Alexander to be the next challenger for Bradley. Gary Shaw and Alex Camponovo want their charge Bradley to have a voluntary defense against the winner of the December clash for the WBO belt between Ricardo Torres and Kendall Holt. The WBC does not want that fight to be for the WBO belt, only for the WBC belt and only if the winner agree to fight the mandatory WBC challenger, be it Alexander, the winner of #2 Junior Witter and #3 Ajose Olusegun eliminator or an eliminator between #1 Alexander and #2 Witter.


Middle:
Kelly Pavlik has also not paid his past sanctioning fees from both the optional defense against Gary Lockett and the catchweight fight versus Bernard Hopkins. The 15 day deadline will apply for Pavlik to pay, lest he be stripped of his title. His mandatory is Marco Antonio Rubio.


Heavy:
Vitali Klitschko recently regained the title he never lost in the ring by vanquishing reigning champion Samuel Peter. As a condition of the negotiations that went into making that fight, Klitschko was not given the option of a voluntary defense in the event that he won. Current mandatory #1 contender Juan Carlos Gomez has won two elimination matches (against Oliver McCall and Vladimir Virchis) and has been awaiting his chance patiently to challenge for the WBC heavyweight title, regardless of who held it. The WBC unanimously voted to grant Gomez his title fight immediately against Klitschko. No requests for a voluntary defense will be granted. As Champion Emeritus, Klitschko was granted a special privilege to try and regain his crown and now the WBC wants to follow its own rules and not keep the mandatory challengers waiting any longer.

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WBC what a bunch or crooks.

If you ever wanted a good reason to only go after the Ring belt look above.

Sulaiman what a crook... ;D

Humberto Soto should Fed-ex his bill to Cortez.....marked payment due.

Someday.....gods willing,the swindlers heading these alphabet belt boyz will over regulate themselves out of existence.

This is the part of boxing I seriously don't understand. All the belts and how they work. It gives me a headache.

And if I were Pacquiao or Pavlik, I'd tell the WBC they can have their worthless belts back.

One day, these sanctioning bodies will realize that belts mean absolutely nothing to star fighters these days. The only belts that have any legitimacy are the Ring belts, and that's because those belts are not about making money from fees, those belts are based on a fighter proving his dominance in a division.

I personally can't believe the Vitali circumstance. They allow Vitali to challenge for the belt but now since Gomez has been waiting so patiently he get's a shot. Why couldn't they have said no to Klitschko and yes to Gomez to fight Peter. Money talk's I guess.

The sanctioning bodies are just a cheeky bunch of robbing bastards these days, something really does need to be done about it IMO