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Hi guys, I'm a relatively short fighter for my weight and I have had enough of hatton-esque charging in takign shots to get inside and loose off my shots. #has anyone got any tips for getting inside in a different manner. Scrap in particular would be nice to hear from but all responses appreciated.
Ride in on the inside of their jab
Slip inside and counter jab or slip inside and move in?
Get inside the jab come in trying to maintain body contact with his jab, and come in,thats whats called riding the jab,best counter punch as your coming in is a hard hook to the body when you get in past the jab. Work the entire time your in there though,if you dont know what to throw anymore,dont hang aroundQuote:
Originally Posted by leonisABC
I can usually hold my own once I'm inside. I might not always throw the "correct" punches, but i keep throwing and thankfully my power carries me through. So keep the contact with the jab.....with the shoulder, and right glove? then maybe hook body, hook head.
Yeppers,either that or a tight uppercutQuote:
Originally Posted by leonisABC
Its not about punching its about position. Getting the feet in position so you are balanced to lead or counter. Theres lots of ways to practice it, give you one. On a punch Bag every Gym has one, all you to do is push the bag so its swinging a bit. When in motion start Shadow Boxing the Bag but dont Hit it, move with it stay about 18 inches away all the time just keep moving all the time. Forward Back, side to side always keep giving it a push when it needs one. ;D
Nice tip. tnx Scrap...will give that a go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
Hi leonis,Quote:
Originally Posted by leonisABC
Putting pressure on your opponent can be a good way you to get the distance that you want. Applying pressure doesn't necessarily mean throwing a lot of punches while following your opponent around getting hit. You can stay just out of punching range (not too far away) prepared to move in on the opening that their punches give you. The pressure is that although you're just out of reach, you're close enough that it feels like you're always on them.
For example: Stepping in, slipping to the outside of their jab will give you a nice opportunity to land a left hook, or a right hand right off the slip.
Browse through the "Useful/Important Posts" section and you'll find many more nice counters that you can put to good use.
When you get close enough, focus on a hard counter to onto a weak spot rather than just throwing a lot of punches. This way you give them something to think about which can help deter them from getting too aggressive with you.
The important thing to remember from this is that having your opponent lead can make getting in close a lot easier. :)
Practice your counters so that you can quickly spring them onto your opponent. That pressure can become like the Sword of Damocles, giving your opponent a lot to worry about.
Once you have that down everything else becomes a little easier. It'll be easier to get your jab going, (stepping in and out) and moving around keeping them where you want them to be.
Don't let your opponent catch you square, it's better to be at stand with your side facing your opponent as you're not giving them free targets. With you being shorter than a lot of guys that you'll face, you can actually use it to your advantage by crouching slightly, with your weight shaded on your back foot, leaning slightly away from their right hand. Use your right hand to pick off their jabs and when they start to jab low, counter with a hard right hand over the top.
Also, by keeping your front foot outside of theirs, and circling to their right you don't have to deal with their right hand as much.
Working on pivots and shifts will help protect you while setting up your shots while you're in range. There's a lot of moves that can help. It all depends on finding something that works for you and putting in the time to get it all right.
I've remember you mention that before but I haven't tried it yet. It sounds like a great way to get a feel for distance while working on footwork if you ask me. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
This isnt from boxing so shun it if you wish ,just another idea.
It wont work so well when your both fresh at a distance and snapping shots out at each other without real intent.
But later on in the rounds when things slow a touch and more intent is issued, or if someone is just comming forwards relentless cause they dont fear what you got at that distance.
God only knows why its not practiced and mastered because boxing is suited to it more than any fighting sport. The opponent only has two arms so you control those two arms as you move in by going for the points just on your side of his elbows and if you maintain contact at his elbow points he cant hit you without you knowing about it instinctivley through feeling. You have his balance point , you have his disruption point ,also the blocking points, so now you can feel where he is going and you react to his reaction and step out into the space he leaves from as move in.It bridges that gapin saftey is all.You are in there nose to nose without an exchange.
So that also takes the eyes out of the equasion as mentioned in the other post on more speed.
Its an art but with the rules being only the arms as attacking instruments I cant gather why someone hasnt mastered it just for closing purposes at least.
It involves breaking the contact and attacking up the spaces that he leaves for you when he reacts to you.
This is close to pushing the rules I realize but it happens so fast that it is nowhere near the length of time spent when a fighter actually does close and hold and the ref steps in to break.Or when someoneleans i and holds one arm and the ref keeps patting it down,its nowhere near that lenght of time,it is an explosive move with a slight break in it that gives you the recation time.
Its not a hold either, its a contact point for reference for moving in dead square;
It still works ok slightly off centre but your legs need to mirror his exactly for the split second required to reach both points for control of both his arms.As he breaks contact you follow his head with a shot up the space left and have the next following right on in behind it as you move in.
You could practice one side if one arm is only in reach of you by pushing his extended jab or other spent shot across towards his other arm as you move your weight into him and close the distance,(just never move towards his rear free arm in that case).
To first make contact with your lead glove ,push across as you move in and then exchange contact so you swap your front glove for your rear glove and attack up the space he leaves you ,attack with your oringinal lead launched from his elbow point as you exchange contact moving forwards but away from his rear arm, works very well.
Same thing when your on the ropes he is square around you and you are taking shots from both sides arms up ear muffs, you take one roll that glove around his elbow to the outside of it and push it across from the outside of his elbow across into his own centre as you head out and under it out to his side . BUT you dont go,you half step so your still in range you throw an uppercut off the inside arm with a rising hip and turn and stick with the prick nose to nose as he turns into you!
I love the inside,theres no time to think.
getting inside is always easier said than done. Everyone has their own way.
But nobody ever talks about ways to get the taller fighter to GIVE UP his reach advantage.
Each will accomplish the same thing.
Think about that.
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Originally Posted by Chris NagelI've remember you mention that before but I haven't tried it yet. It sounds like a great way to get a feel for distance while working on footwork if you ask me. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
What I like about this, and I could be wrong, but is seems to me this is an especially good drill for someone who is tall and has range and fights that way...but needs to or wants to work on infighting. This to me has been a thing I constantly want to work on. i'm sure it as others things are meant for any fighter, tall, short etc...but I can see how it would train a person to be comfortable in close, and a good shorter infighter can do that to us tall guys.
Its a good drill for everyone, whatever there circumstance. ;D