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...pretty much dominate Arreola from what i saw tonight, i mean don't get me wrong he showed heart, chin, and power, but honestly this dude barely could box and he had Arreola pinned on the ropes the whole first round, would that have been either Klitschko they would have won by first round stoppage, this dude needs to get dedicated, he doesn't have Toney's skill, and although he has good power, he's no Foreman to be coming into the ring that fat.
Completely agree, although he may have a shot against Wlad, he's got a china chin. Vitali would hurt him probably.
i agree with that, yet think that Wlad would put on a worse beating than Vitali due to his better jab and boxing ability, either Klitschko would KO him IMO and in under 4 rounds
I agree. They would pick him off and batter him. No disgrace losing to those two in my opinion. I personally like his style which kinda resembles Povetkins.
Or...he could smother Wlad's punches and get to his vulnerable chin. I tell you what, I doubt Wlad could have come back from that straight right that dropped Areaola.
Povetkin is much more well rounded, much quicker hands, much better technique.Quote:
Originally Posted by TigerFan
Agreed. Hed have a punchers chance against Wlad. but I think Wlad would most likely keep him on the end of his punches and stop him. Arreola is slow on is feet and his defence isnt great. He has obvious power but I wasnt as impressed as the staff at HBO...and i found it a little concerning that he even said he wasnt worried about his weight and he could have trained harder. I dont recall many up and comers who wants to win a title have that kind of attitude at this point in his career.
I think both beat Arreola right now....inside of distance.Arreola shows no sign of improvment or adjusting Imo and easlily cast's aside the legit questions/concerns of long run future.
My thoughts exactly i mean by the way that they were singing about how great he looked, and constantly repeating, "The Best American Heavyweight" just seriously made it sound like if they're that desperate to have an American Heavyweight with a title, i mean i'm not sayin that the dude is garbage, cause he has awesome power, but honestly i think that if he fights a dude that has just as good power and the ability to take his punch and he's in for a long night, at this point a fight between him and Tua is still about a 50/50 fightQuote:
Originally Posted by Boom Boom
"The Best American Heavyweight." If so, we are in terrible straights. I'd like to see him fight Eddie Chambers who I think would expose him. Chris has great attributes, yes, but training is not one of them. He needs to get down to about 238.
Both Klits stop him early.
I want to give Arreola the benefit of the doubt but when you show up that out of shape for a big time fight on HBO you're asking to be humiliated. I think Wlad and Vitali would punish him...what was with Cris waiting in the first round?!?!?! "I wanted to see what he had and he had good power" well that's freaking great and all Cris but when you lose a round vs a top teir fighter you lose momentum, you let them carry the pace and you put yourself at risk of being schooled for every round as other fighters can gameplan around what you do as well.
I liked what I saw from Walker, he's got good power and he can box relatively well he just got a bit too happy in there and threw too much too soon. Had he got behind his jab he would have won easy....he went to the body really good.
I like David Haye's chances better than Arreola's...at least Haye comes to fight in shape.
Come to think of it, I'd like to see Haye - Arreola.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
He would lay Eddie Chambers out, but Povetkin/Chagaev/Ibragimov would box circles around him.
I think Chambers would win the first 5 rounds and then get tired of just holding his arms up and eventually get stopped.
Arreola is nothing special, he throws wide punches, he doesn't pay attention to boxing, he gets hit too often. You can't do that as a heavyweight and live to tell about it. The way the Klitschko's control the pace of a fight gives Arreola little chance to land any big bombs because anytime he winds up he's going to eat a rock hard jab before he lands anything.
Arreola-Haye or Arreola-Povetkin would be exciting fights...I'd like to see Walker do more, maybe an ESPN fight sometime soon.