Vernon Forrest on Paul Williams - Is this a duck or is it valid?
"I'm a little more advanced than Paul Williams at this stage of the game. I think I've earned the right to have a super fight. Me fighting Paul Williams is not a super fight, it's a fight. Therefore, I'm not interested. I'm interested in being part of a huge event, like the one coming up with De La Hoya and Pacquiao. That's a huge boxing event. I'd like to be a part of something like that."
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I can't see anyone like ODH taking a fight with Forrest, he's not much of a draw. Apparently they were negotiating with Pavlik but that fell through, luckily for Vernon.
Re: Vernon Forrest on Paul Williams - Is this a duck or is it valid?
Forrest is shot. Williams would beat his ass. And Forrest knows it. Which is why he won't fight him
Re: Vernon Forrest on Paul Williams - Is this a duck or is it valid?
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Violent Demise
Forrest is shot. Williams would beat his ass. And Forrest knows it. Which is why he won't fight him
I agree 100%, Williams would smoke him and I'm pretty sure Forrest knows that. I imagine a fight with Williams would earn a fair bit of coin (due primarily to Williams), but maybe I'm off-base.
Re: Vernon Forrest on Paul Williams - Is this a duck or is it valid?
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CFH
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Violent Demise
Forrest is shot. Williams would beat his ass. And Forrest knows it. Which is why he won't fight him
I agree 100%, Williams would smoke him and I'm pretty sure Forrest knows that. I imagine a fight with Williams would earn a fair bit of coin (due primarily to Williams), but maybe I'm off-base.
I don't think there would be any public interest to watch this fight. Forrest and Williams are both relatively unknown outside of boxing fans.
But if they were to fight, Williams would dominate Forrest. I don't think Forrest would even want to go near him.
Re: Vernon Forrest on Paul Williams - Is this a duck or is it valid?
well wat other top name at 154 is there to fight besides Forrest?? Maybe Mora but Paul will destroy Mora. its kinda the only "big" fight for williams at 154. he should try his luck again at 147.
oh i forgot about santos. they both beat Margarito :-\
Re: Vernon Forrest on Paul Williams - Is this a duck or is it valid?
I think Williams can dominate 154.I think he will not return to 147 regardless of chatter and will be tempted to rise to Middle shortly.That shaky D will catch up to him a bit but Forrest is not a dummy,realizes he has one or two biggies left and no shot at Rue Paul.
Re: Vernon Forrest on Paul Williams - Is this a duck or is it valid?
Daniel Santos and Sergei Dzindziruk will be a good fight for Williams at 154...
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Re: Vernon Forrest on Paul Williams - Is this a duck or is it valid?
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Violent Demise
Forrest is shot. Williams would beat his ass. And Forrest knows it. Which is why he won't fight him
Exactly!!!
I laughed my ass off yesterday when I read this.
$hit, Forrest is delusional if he thinks that he is also a "Big" event fighter at this point in his career.
And I guess if he was trying to get a fight with Pavlik, that means he's probably going to give up his belt today, because today is the deadline for him to decide whether or not to fight Sergio Martinez. He probably wants no part of Martinez either.
I kind of wish that Vernon would have gotten Pavlik's next fight in February, because I'm going to go, since it's in Youngstown, and I would have loved to see him get beaten by Pavlik. ;D
Re: Vernon Forrest on Paul Williams - Is this a duck or is it valid?
I read not too long ago that this fight was not likely anyway because both are managed by Al Haymon, creating an obvious conflict of interest for negotiations. But, there may be a way around that because the fight makes too much sense.
Seriously, what big name is going to fight Forrest, who is not himself a big draw? If he is waiting for De La Hoya or Margarito to come calling, he is going to be waiting a long time. Williams is probably the biggest money available to him right now.
Re: Vernon Forrest on Paul Williams - Is this a duck or is it valid?
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SaddoBoxer
Daniel Santos and Sergei Dzindziruk will be a good fight for Williams at 154...
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As the interim WBO title holder, Williams is the mandatory challenger for Sergei, so they could fight next. On the other hand, Dzindziruk probably does not have a single fan anywhere in the U.S.A., so the TV networks might not be interested which would kill the fight.
Re: Vernon Forrest on Paul Williams - Is this a duck or is it valid?
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Violent Demise
Forrest is shot. Williams would beat his ass. And Forrest knows it. Which is why he won't fight him
Agreed. He knows Paul will retire him like he did to Verno.
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Violent Demise
Forrest is shot. Williams would beat his ass. And Forrest knows it. Which is why he won't fight him
Agreed. He knows Paul will retire him like he did to Verno.
Not so sure about this I guess:confused: Surely Williams would be a deserved favourite in this fight but I could definetly see Vernon doing really well if he moves and uses his reach... He is a bunch slicker than Paul Williams. I would pick a prime Vernon Forrest to win this fight all day and think he could still do it.
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SaddoBoxer
Daniel Santos and Sergei Dzindziruk will be a good fight for Williams at 154...
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Exactly. Moreover, Dzinziruk has already claimed he would come to the US to fight Paul. And he beat Santos.
Williams would destory Mora, but it would be a big fight at 154.
How about Sergio Martinez? Not a big name, but he has some tools.
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ClubberLang
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SaddoBoxer
Daniel Santos and Sergei Dzindziruk will be a good fight for Williams at 154...
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As the interim WBO title holder, Williams is the mandatory challenger for Sergei, so they could fight next. On the other hand, Dzindziruk probably does not have a single fan anywhere in the U.S.A., so the TV networks might not be interested which would kill the fight.
However, in Germany...this fight would be huge.
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SaddoBoxer
Daniel Santos and Sergei Dzindziruk will be a good fight for Williams at 154...
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Exactly. Moreover, Dzinziruk has already claimed he would come to the US to fight Paul. And he beat Santos.
Williams would destory Mora, but it would be a big fight at 154.
How about Sergio Martinez? Not a big name, but he has some tools.
I can't see Martinez's handlers putting him in with Williams. He'd have probably the best shot of anyone at 154, but even then I can't picture anything but Williams domination.