Cotto may never be the same

Just watched the Margo V Cotto fight again...

Cotto performed at the highest level possible, literally the man put on a clinic.

The bombs that Cotto was landing on Margo were devastating slipping in and out hitting Margo with heavy handed cement fisted shots that could literally have dropped much bigger men. The dancing and foot work that Cotto was using made Floyds work on dancing with the stars look like amatuer night at the Apollo...THE MAN COULD DO NO WRONG.

He got beat up.

Cotto is a great fighter/warrior, but how do you come back from that, to have put on the best performance of your life, only to be preasurred into submission, I think it was the kind of loss that can change a fighter, at the very least his style. There were some moments in that fight, that I caught some looks and body language from Cotto that alluded to what ultimately happened in the fight, looks of desperation truly.

Here's my question, Cotto is coming up on a fight soon and afterwards probably will come a rematch against Margo. Will he be the same? I know there are lots of Cotto fans and I respect you all. but try to be objective here. I'd also like to here what you think Cotto's mental state will be going into a Margo rematch, can he pull the trigger against the man who beat him, I guess im looking to hear your thoughts on Cotto's mental state, was he beaten to the point of being a lesser fighter because of that loss?

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Originally Posted by OnixAA

Just watched the Margo V Cotto fight again...

Cotto performed at the highest level possible, literally the man put on a clinic.

The bombs that Cotto was landing on Margo were devastating slipping in and out hitting Margo with heavy handed cement fisted shots that could literally have dropped much bigger men. The dancing and foot work that Cotto was using made Floyds work on dancing with the stars look like amatuer night at the Apollo...THE MAN COULD DO NO WRONG.

He got beat up.

Cotto is a great fighter/warrior, but how do you come back from that, to have put on the best performance of your life, only to be preasurred into submission, I think it was the kind of loss that can change a fighter, at the very least his style. There were some moments in that fight, that I caught some looks and body language from Cotto that alluded to what ultimately happened in the fight, looks of desperation truly.

Here's my question, Cotto is coming up on a fight soon and afterwards probably will come a rematch against Margo. Will he be the same? I know there are lots of Cotto fans and I respect you all. but try to be objective here. I'd also like to here what you think Cotto's mental state will be going into a Margo rematch, can he pull the trigger against the man who beat him?

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Originally Posted by OnixAA

Just watched the Margo V Cotto fight again...

Cotto performed at the highest level possible, literally the man put on a clinic.

The bombs that Cotto was landing on Margo were devastating slipping in and out hitting Margo with heavy handed cement fisted shots that could literally have dropped much bigger men. The dancing and foot work that Cotto was using made Floyds work on dancing with the stars look like amatuer night at the Apollo...THE MAN COULD DO NO WRONG.

He got beat up.

Cotto is a great fighter/warrior, but how do you come back from that, to have put on the best performance of your life, only to be preasurred into submission, I think it was the kind of loss that can change a fighter, at the very least his style. There were some moments in that fight, that I caught some looks and body language from Cotto that alluded to what ultimately happened in the fight, looks of desperation truly.

Here's my question, Cotto is coming up on a fight soon and afterwards probably will come a rematch against Margo. Will he be the same? I know there are lots of Cotto fans and I respect you all. but try to be objective here. I'd also like to here what you think Cotto's mental state will be going into a Margo rematch, can he pull the trigger against the man who beat him?

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yeah, we've heard it all.. but you basically have the answer in your post.. if he fought margarito again, he'd have to change his style or approach to it.. he has realized that he can't bang with him, and he'd need to be more elusive, try to get in and out and be effective.. he'd have to use his strengths more to his advantage.. being speed and defense..

with that said, i still don't think he'd beat him, but that doesn't mean that Cotto is not still going to be a huge name in the 147 division by any means..

I think there is a question mark beside Cotto's ability (willingness?) to take punishment. It may well be a weakness in an otherwise powerful arsenal. We shall see.

I guess im looking to hear your thoughts on Cotto's mental state, was he beaten to the point of being a lesser fighter because of that loss?

I think he boxed very well but he didnt anticipate Magarito keeping up the pressure the whole fight, and also he didnt think he would be unable to back him up. As he started to tire he went to the ropes more. Cotto isnt use to being in trouble, thus not used to tying up. Hes never had to survive before because hes always been the stronger guy this late in a fight. If it wasnt for the Torres fight Margarito would have probably stopped him sooner. I think he learned some lessons and will come back strong. Now we get to see what he is really made of.

Cotto didnt take a Jeff Lacy style beating in that fight...He won some rounds but chose the wrong strategy and in the end couldnt find an answer. Yeah he took alot of punishment and we will see how he rebounds but I think he will be fine...he was one fighter than needed to take a long break and re group...Margs is kind of a beast in that he can take tremendous shots and keep coming BUT you cant keep taking that kind of punishment without some ill effects...Margs was probably a bit woozy the next day after that fight as well....

Alot of fighters take terrible beatings in fights and come back and fight well, Gatti, Izzy, Marquez, Corrales, to name a few....but it will shorten your career..

I think he has the skills to beat Margs just need to come up with a new strategy and improve cardio.

Cotto needs redemption big time. He needs to KO back Margo to fulfil it.

I think Cotto got tired, the writing was on the wall really, Margarito's gameplan was perfect, a prime Shane Mosley may have gotten to him too if he had the stamina he used too, in retrospect the loss to Margarito was academic, Cotto never has been known for his stamina, he's faught guys that tired late in his 12 rounders, I think thats a flaw that would be exposed again if he faught Margarito again, maybe Hatton too.

IMO i think that we have to give him the opportunity to start his return after the lose with Margo and then we can determine his performance of if he could be the same or not ...................

Although is true that the kind of lose that Cotto got most of boxers had never be the same , but we have to see first how he comes mentally and physically before making speculation...................

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Originally Posted by OnixAA

Just watched the Margo V Cotto fight again...

Cotto performed at the highest level possible, literally the man put on a clinic.

The bombs that Cotto was landing on Margo were devastating slipping in and out hitting Margo with heavy handed cement fisted shots that could literally have dropped much bigger men. The dancing and foot work that Cotto was using made Floyds work on dancing with the stars look like amatuer night at the Apollo...THE MAN COULD DO NO WRONG.

He got beat up.

Cotto is a great fighter/warrior, but how do you come back from that, to have put on the best performance of your life, only to be preasurred into submission, I think it was the kind of loss that can change a fighter, at the very least his style. There were some moments in that fight, that I caught some looks and body language from Cotto that alluded to what ultimately happened in the fight, looks of desperation truly.

Here's my question, Cotto is coming up on a fight soon and afterwards probably will come a rematch against Margo. Will he be the same? I know there are lots of Cotto fans and I respect you all. but try to be objective here. I'd also like to here what you think Cotto's mental state will be going into a Margo rematch, can he pull the trigger against the man who beat him, I guess im looking to hear your thoughts on Cotto's mental state, was he beaten to the point of being a lesser fighter because of that loss?

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I know you're a Margo fan, and I commend you for your well put together post. Thanks for recognizing just how well Cotto fought, although in a losing effort. Most boxing fans tend to dismiss a fighter's efforts once he loses, but I agree with you that Cotto was putting on a boxing clinic, AND hitting Margo with some bombs that would've dropped lesser fighters.

Regarding Cotto's mental state, I feel Cotto is an EXTREMELY strong fighter mentally. But to automatically assume that there will be NO effects from his devastating loss to Margarito when they meet again... is to not recognize the realities of boxing. That Cotto has the tools to be an elite champion at 147, I don't think anyone disputes that. And I think he's got the mental makeup to come back. But a rematch with Margarito would be very dangerous indeed. Although knowing Cotto, he'll probably jump at the opportunity.

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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

Cotto needs redemption big time. He needs to KO back Margo to fulfil it.

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With a loss that ends up THAT bad, the guy that is asking for the rematch has to come back and knock out the other guy cold or win in a convincing fashion.

He should be fine. The loss can only make him stronger, for it gives him experience and reason to step it up more. Without the loss, he will still have it in him, that weak, sense of false superiority. It gives him a much proper perspective and respect to the opposition, with regard to preparation.

I saw an interview where Freddie Roach indicated that, had Cotto included a body attack in his fight plan against Margarito and not relied purely on headhunting, he would have been successful.

Now, if Miguel's will broke in the Tony fight... then that is another story. It will be harder to recover from that. Whatever it is that did not break you can only make you stronger!

You never can tell until they get back in the ring, and only the fighters themselves have any real inkling of what it took out of them.

Cotto just got stopped but fighters have come back from being stopped before. Some fighters respond differently than others. I like to think he can bounce back, but you never know until they jump through those ropes.

im not so sure how Cotto will be either. i just rewatched the margarito fight but instead of watching Cotto i watched tony. i watched every punch Tony threw body shots head shots, and there was a right hand that hit Cotto so hard that Cottos blood got on the camera :o. he took major punishment from Margs im not sure if Cotto can win the rematch but im hoping he does since hes still one of my favorite fighters currently. we will find out in the rematch with Margarito im sure he will get through Jennings.