What country has produced the best all around fighters during the past 60 years?
By "all around," I mean jusrt that; namley, stylists, warriors, technicians, sluggers, etc, etc.
Some that come to mind are:
Mexico :foruml10gc5:
The U.K.
The U.S.
Puerto Rico
Japan
South Korea
Russia (Eastern Europe)
What do you think? :confused: :confused:
Re: What country has produced the best all around fighters during the past 60 years?
Not in any order:
USA
Mexico
South Africa
Britain
Thailand
Argentina
Puerto Rico (terr.)
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Re: What country has produced the best all around fighters during the past 60 years?
USA for sure.
Mexico
I think Brittain is moving up quickly
We shall see from Cuba as more and more of them go pro, but it seems like a pretty diverse field over there.
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Re: What country has produced the best all around fighters during the past 60 years?
USA (probably at #1)
Mexico
Puerto Rico
UK
Jamaica (if you count boxers such as Lloyd Honeyghan as well)
Re: What country has produced the best all around fighters during the past 60 years?
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
USA (probably at #1)
Mexico
Puerto Rico
UK
Jamaica (if you count boxers such as Lloyd Honeyghan as well)
Wow, I forgot about Jamaica. On a per capita basis, it ranks very high, indeed.
A series of five monster upsets all by tough Jamaican fighters astounded me.
Trevor Berbick’s 1980 ambush KO of Big John Tate in Montreal set the stage for four more shockers. The welterweight champion Lloyd Honeyghan, nicknamed “Ragamuffin” due to his Jamaican roots, defeated heavily favored Donald Curry in 1986. In an equally stunning upset, welterweight Kirkland Laing (43-12-1) beat Roberto Duran in 1982.
And there was the notable amateur fighter, Michael Bentt, former WBO
Heavyweight Champ, who knocked out heavily favored Tommy Morrison in
1993 in an incredible first-round upset. The thing about Bentt was that he was very good amateur fighter, and Morrison’s camp had done a terrible
job researching his amateur record. Had he not suffered a career-ending and life-threatening injury in his fight with Herbie Hide, there is no telling how far he could have gone.
And who could forget the great Simon “Mantequilla” Brown, WBC and IBF
Welterweight Titleholder who KO’d Terry Norris in 1993 for the WBC Light
Middleweight Title in Ring magazine’s Upset of the Year? What made these fights memorable? They were all major upsets, and they were all pulled off by Jamaican fighters.
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Originally Posted by
holmcall
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
USA (probably at #1)
Mexico
Puerto Rico
UK
Jamaica (if you count boxers such as Lloyd Honeyghan as well)
Wow, I forgot about Jamaica. On a per capita basis, it ranks very high, indeed.
A series of five monster upsets all by tough Jamaican fighters astounded me.
Trevor Berbick’s 1980 ambush KO of Big John Tate in Montreal set the stage for four more shockers. The welterweight champion Lloyd Honeyghan, nicknamed “Ragamuffin” due to his Jamaican roots, defeated heavily favored Donald Curry in 1986. In an equally stunning upset, welterweight Kirkland Laing (43-12-1) beat Roberto Duran in 1982.
And there was the notable amateur fighter, Michael Bentt, former WBO
Heavyweight Champ, who knocked out heavily favored Tommy Morrison in
1993 in an incredible first-round upset. The thing about Bentt was that he was very good amateur fighter, and Morrison’s camp had done a terrible
job researching his amateur record.
Had he not suffered a career-ending and life-threatening injury in his fight with Herbie Hide, there is no telling how far he could have gone.
And who could forget the great Simon “Mantequilla” Brown, WBC and IBF
Welterweight Titleholder who KO’d Terry Norris in 1993 for the WBC Light
Middleweight Title in Ring magazine’s Upset of the Year? What made these fights memorable? They were all major upsets, and they were all pulled off by Jamaican fighters.
Agreed, on the plus side though, at least he suffered no major long-term damage from it, and makes a good living in movies now, too often guys who go through that end up with nothing left mentally & struggle to make opportunities for themselves elsewhere.
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I would say in order (personal choice)
USA
Mexico
Puerto Rico
UK
Thailand
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In terms of per capita world champions (and in descending order):
1. Puerto Rico
2. Panama
3. U.S.
4. Dominican Republic
5. Venezuela
6. Mexico
7. Cuba
8. England
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I am tying to come up with a formula based on per capita champions; that is to say, what country produced the most champions based on its population. A lot of flaws in this, but my assumption is that PR might be the one--or maybe Jamaica.
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HHhmm, seven champions from Jamaica divided by 2,780,132 (population).
But 40 from PR divided by 3,944,259, so adios to Jamaica!
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Originally Posted by
holmcall
HHhmm, seven champions from Jamaica divided by 2,780,132 (population).
But 40 from PR divided by 3,944,259, so adios to Jamaica!
When I did some research on this back a few months ago, I didn't include countries that hadn't had at least 10 world champions. I guess that's why Jamaica hadn't made my list.
