Who is the man at 147???

I really don't know now. I thought it might have been Margarito, but now I have to conclude that it is Williams or Cotto, if Williams can make it back to 147. A valid case can also be made for Cotto now that Margarito's honour is in question with regards to wrapping. I think that biggest fight in the division is Cotto Williams at 147, although I would love to see Mosley Berto now as well.

If Margarito is proven to have been using plaster, he should have his license revoked and all fights struck from the records.

Mosley has shook the division up with that win.

Cotto beat Mosley
Margarito beat Cotto
Mosley beat Margarito
its very intresting where they go from here

Then there is Berto he needs to get one of the big names to see who is the best at 147.

Sugar Shane Mosley.

How can anyone disagree ???

yeah. Sugar is the man at 147 right now. He lost a decision to Cotto that could have gone either way. I personally had Cotto ahead by two rounds, but understand it could have been a draw or even a ud for Mosely. After last night's domination of Margarito, he definitely gets the man status from me.

There is no champion. If Shane can win a rematch with Cotto then he'd have a case, but there's also Paul Williams.

I hope PW stays where he is or moves up to light heavy or heavy. His azz is way too big for this division.

Shane Mosley

No question. He beats Pac, Hatton, Tony and Cotto. Floyd is the fight I wana see. Its been waiting to happen for 10 years

It was Mayweather, then Cotto, then Margarito, now it's Shane!

Are they ever going to put up that RING belt for a fight?

I don't know i don't think theres any one main man in the division anymore, because they've all mostly tasted defeat. And i believe they could beat eachother on any of there best nights so its hard to tell, but ranking wise at the moment its for certain Shane Mosley.

People never learn... Cotto is definitely the best fighter at WW right now until Floyd comes back. He beat Mosley, he beat Quintana, Judah, etc. He would beat Paul Williams. How would Molsey do against PW? I don't think he wins that, or against Berto or against Cotto. He fought great here, but people need to take Mosley's career into perspective, he is a hot and cold fighter, who is really hot against the right opposition, and no so great against others.

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Originally Posted by ICB

I don't know i don't think theres any one main man in the division anymore, because they've all mostly tasted defeat. And i believe they could beat eachother on any of there best nights so its hard to tell, but ranking wise at the moment its for certain Shane Mosley.

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Mosley is the man right now, no doubt.

Dan Rafael said before the fight that the Mosley/Margarito match should have been for The Ring belt, and I agree. Mosley should be the champ, with Cotto the #1 contender. I suppose instead they'll keep it vacant with Shane #1 and Cotto #2.

It doesn't make any sense to worry about where Paul Williams ranks until he decides to fight at welter again.

Shane Mosley

So who do you guys want to see fight next? Mosley Williams would also be good to see. I was not expecting that result last night at all, but fair play to Mosley. These old timers are messing with our heads recently. First Hopkins destroys the middleweight star Pavlik and now Mosley upsets the WW division turning it on it's head. I now think all of the big fights at 147 are complete
pick 'ems.

One thing I can't believe now is that Mayweather can stay retired. Williams, Cotto and Mosley are all legitimate huge fights. Add to that Hatton and Manny and there are so many potential Mega fights to be made.

Excting times at 147 ;D

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Originally Posted by ICB

I don't know i don't think theres any one main man in the division anymore, because they've all mostly tasted defeat. And i believe they could beat eachother on any of there best nights so its hard to tell, but ranking wise at the moment its for certain Shane Mosley.

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Mosley is the man right now, no doubt.

Dan Rafael said before the fight that the Mosley/Margarito match should have been for The Ring belt, and I agree. Mosley should be the champ, with Cotto the #1 contender. I suppose instead they'll keep it vacant with Shane #1 and Cotto #2.

It doesn't make any sense to worry about where Paul Williams ranks until he decides to fight at welter again.

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Why would he be the ring champ, when the guy right up there with him, beat him? I don't think Mosley as cemented his place atop the division until he beats the guy who beat him.

IMO Floyd should leapfrog both of them when he comes back, he is clearly the best fighter in the division when he comes back which might be against Mosley.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

Why would he be the ring champ, when the guy right up there with him, beat him? I don't think Mosley as cemented his place atop the division until he beats the guy who beat him.

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Two reasons:

1. The relative quality of the wins. Mosley lost a very close decision to Cotto; Cotto was brutally knocked out by Margarito, who was then KTFO by Mosley. That makes Mosley's case the most convincing out of the trio.

2. More importantly, the timeline of the wins also matters. Shane beat the man who beat the man; if you're talking about a title lineage it just doesn't matter that Shane previously lost to Cotto. Like Lampley talking about the heavyweights last night, when Frazier beat Ali, Foreman beat Frazier, and Ali beat Foreman; Ali was the champ.

Before the fight Margarito was number 1; he had just beaten the number 2 man (Cotto), and Mosley was number 3. That would seem to fit The Ring's policy for filling a vacant championship.

Maybe they were trying to avoid the appearance of bias because Shane is a GBP fighter? Otherwise I don't understand the decision.