Only seen his fights with virgil..ironically their only ones he's he's ever lost...So does anyone have any solid break down of him as a fighter?
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Only seen his fights with virgil..ironically their only ones he's he's ever lost...So does anyone have any solid break down of him as a fighter?
He was a good fighter more then anything he had good power. He was too hot & cold for me at times. One day he looked stellar then the next fight he would look like crap.
I still have NO fucken idea how he made it out of round 8 (I think it was) vs. Branco. He took some solid shots and Branco couldn't get him out of there. That was a really good fight Tiozzo won by Decision that fight but it was close and Tiozzo knocked Branco down but the replay showed Branco slipped.
I remember the most vs. Dariusz what a brutal fight that was...
All in all he was a good fighter. He was the better of the 3 Tiozzo bros.
Don't know too much about him other than he beat my boy Dariusz. I've only seen two of his fights and they were his last two fights against Dariusz & Saenz so I haven't seen prime Tiozzo. He does own some solid wins over guys like Eric Lucas and Mike McCallum.
I found a highlight of the Tiozzo-vs-Branco match CMM mentioned.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx6pTSuVgZk
Fabrice was a good boxer, talented and with some real power...
but he always had that problem with the weight...I mean, a real one :-). Fabrice has never been so good that at 175 lbs. eventually getting to the 190lbs division (cruiser) because he suffered too much. even there he was still suffering to make that weight !!
He simply ballooned too much between fights, and we all know how dangerous it is for a boxer on a long term.
I remember his brother (Christophe, former WBA super middleweight champ) that while he was fighting at 175lbs and was getting around with 200-210 lbs....but while the 190 lbs period he was around 220-230 lbs. Losing 40lbs is never easy for a fight, and the more you do the more you weaken your body!
but when focused and wanted to win, he was hard to beat or you needed to be a top fighter (IMO Jones and Calzzaghe would have beat him, no question). he just got surprised on his 2nd fight with Virgill, he had no luck, it's simply boxing. on their first fight, no surprise, Virgill was more experienced.
When he came back fighting at 175lbs, it was directly against the champ Branco (other champ like ROy jones just got crashed on this exercice) :-)
HE just butchered Dariuz M. but I have to admit that Tiozzo was fighting for his legacy and wanted to prove to the french specialists he deserved to be recognised as a true champ but on the other hand, Dariuz was not able to push the engine anymore and I think he wasn't that motivated...
Overall Tiozzo was a good boxer, good power, chin and speed, but his weight problem killed his best years I think.
Fabrice has been
WBC light heavy champ
WBA Cruiser Champ
and then WBA light heavy champ on the late.
not bad :-)
Actually had not realised there were 3 brothers, they were tough as nails but not brilliant fighters.
I remember Christophe getting all the hype, he was supposed to be the next Carpentier...
Fabrice always struck me as an honest pro, and although he seemingly did not always show it, I think he did have an excellent work effic to make up for his lack of natural ability. Although beating a still lively McCallum (all be it in France) was a fair result.
He easily beat a couple of decent domestic operators in Core and Magee to show us Brits he may be a bit lively.
I remember the first Hill fight, and I was a little disappointed in Fabrice, he let the occasion get to him, and lost more convincingly than the split decision suggests.
Like the McCallum fight, the Michalczewski win looks real good, and to be fair, I picked Michalczewski, but hindsight hurts Fabrice, and he will get only minimal credit for the win, as history is written.
I've seen his fights with Mike McCallum, Dariusz Michalczewski, Virgil Hill x2. Mike McCallum was still good but you could see he had for certain lost a step, he was too slow and i thought it was reasonably close, but Mike McCallum lost by atleast 2 rounds, from my memory including the knockdown.Quote:
Originally Posted by Britkid
you're right my friend, that's the problem with the French, they do too much once one of their fighter is a fair one.Quote:
I remember Christophe getting all the hype, he was supposed to be the next Carpentier...
ON the paper in France he was nearly as good as Carpentier, you're right.
He might be remembered as minor in history, but I think he's satisfied being a 3times world champ. Few can say the same.
Never will be confused for an Adonis and at first glance you could just picture him wielding a putter and strolling across the golf course as opposed to wearing gloves lol.But he was a comer from what Ive seen though nothing really grabs you as 'great'.McCallum was on the a bit on the otherside but Tiozzo had him rattled bad off that right hand and went for the finish,to shake him at the bell and I thought he took it wider than the cards read.
He had some nice stateside exposure.He flat out hustled a decent fighter in Miller for Cruiser strap and the one I cannot erase from memory was the 2nd Hill fight.Had to do a double take that night as the normally pure boxing Hill had turned into a gloved blitzkrieg and bounced a shocked Tiozzo all over the ring in one.His weight fluctuations were really something else,like a roller coaster.
Tiozzo wasnt anything special IMO.
When he won the title on the Holyfield- Moorer 2 undercard the crowd got behind him but that was more down to their displeasure of Nate Millers laziness rather than appreciation for Tizzos skills. That was a razor close decision too.
I cant belive he got blown away by and old Virgill Hill aswel. Decent fighter but I was surprised to read his name on a thread title.