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When this fight was first made many thought it was an easy fight for Floyd but now the opinions of who will win are becoming more divided but if Mayweather stops marquez surely this is a good result isn't it?? as this is the Man that many feel beat Pacquiao twice whats your opinions on how the win is rated if its a stoppage win?
I think most will still say that it is just Floyd beating a smaller guy. Pbf should win really, but if he wins by KO it will be dam impressive cos JMM is a tough guy.
If Mayweather wins by stoppage then I think it speaks volumes. But I seriously think he would be going tooth and nail to get a stoppage against JMM. But for the sake of argument, if PBF does stop JMM I am certain people will belittle it with the overstated size advantage. I guess JMM is too little for PBF but Pac isn't. Go figure. But I'm sure neither guy is an easy night for PBF, who is a miniature welterweight.
Considering size Marquez is alot closer to Mayweather than Pacquiao was to De La Hoya.
I'd rather see Mayweather lose to Marquez because I think Marquez makes a Better fight for Pacquiao.
So what happens if Mayweather beat Marquez? It is expected....
I know Mayweather is taller than Marquez,but what about reach advantage,if Mayweather has both then that'll be a major factor.Mayweather has the advantage on foot work and covering up really well.Marquez will test Mayweather when or if he cuts down the ring and corners Floyd.It would be impressive if Mayweather stops Marquez due to the fact that Marquez is game and as tough as old boots!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tysonbruno
If Floyd stops Marquez, you can't just chalk it up to Floyd beating a blown up lightweight, because Floyd hasn't been knocking many guys out for a long time. He went the distance with guys like Castillo, Sosa, Corley, Zab, etc.
If he stops Marquez, it'll have to be because Floyd fought a very good fight and landed a ton of clean punches.
I think Floyd chose Marquez because he believes he'll stop him. An impressive stoppage gets one up on Pac and bodes well for him in the negotiations for their fight.
I expect the natural size advantage to be quite noticeable once they're in the ring.
The opinions aren't becoming more divided. A vast majority of people believe PBF will dominate Marquez in this fight (my prediction for what it is worth is 9 rounds to 3 for PBF in a clear decision victory).Quote:
Originally Posted by Tysonbruno
A stoppage by cut won't be much more impressive than a decision victory. A hard knockout clearly would be impressive although a hard knockout of Pacquiao by Cotto would be more impressive.
PBF is a minature welterweight? Is that consensus? He is 30 (?) and has fought at welterweight for the last four years and his height and reach are definitely comparable to most top welterweights out there other than Pwill. Cotto is shorter and has less reach and Shane is the same height and has around the same reach. Berto same.Quote:
Originally Posted by blegit
There is a size advantage. It isn't overstated. In the same way Cotto possesses a size advantage over Pacquiao, which is one of the things that makes that fight interesting.
Pac and JMM are too little for PBF; PBF should be favored against either fighter. I agree neither fight is a gimme for PBF, but he should be favored.
Here is Eddie Mustapha Muhammad (Chad Dawson's Trainer) on the size disparity between PBF and Pacman:
prediction.
FLOYD VS. MANNY: “Without a doubt, that fight will happen. Pacman’s speed is too much for Miguel Cotto. He can outpoint Cotto just on speed. You can’t beat Manny throwing one jab at a time because he comes right over the top on you. It would take the Mayweather style to beat Manny. Floyd is a full fledged welterweight, he’s just too big for Manny. He will beat Pacquiao." - From the Examiner
he'll stop him. bet the house on it.
Nah, i'll give that a miss. I quite enjoy living in a house.Quote:
Originally Posted by jokaleras
I'm a big fan of Floyd/Jmm, but this fight is a total mismatch. Floyd's advantages over Marquez are talent, handspeed, footspeed, size, strength, height, youth and possibly reach.
Name me one thing that Marquez has over Floyd? There isn't one, unless you count being more active as one.
he will. you'll realize come fight night the gap in class. as skilled as jmm is.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanman89Nah, i'll give that a miss. I quite enjoy living in a house.Quote:
Originally Posted by jokaleras
Just as a fun fact I found the heights of names in the WW division. Some of these guys haven't fought at Welter for a bit, but all have fought there within the last 3 years.
6'1"
Paul Williams
6'0"
Delvin Rodriguez
5'11"
Antonio Margarito
5'10"
Jesus Soto Karass
5'9"
Shane Mosley
Andre Berto
Kell Brook
Alfonso Gomez
Saul Alvarez
5'8"
Floyd Mayweather
Joshua Clottey
Isaac Hlatshwayo
5'7"
Juan Manuel Marquez
Miguel Cotto
Selcuk Aydin
Zab Judah
5'6"
Sebastian Andres Lujan
Heart. I still favor Floyd - he has entirely too many advantages - but heart is always an X factor in boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog