I know everybody wont agree but I think Hopkins only legitimate losses were to Jones and Calzaghe.
My point is he is not an easy bloke to beat so which active boxers do you think could beat Hopkins if they fought in the near future.
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I know everybody wont agree but I think Hopkins only legitimate losses were to Jones and Calzaghe.
My point is he is not an easy bloke to beat so which active boxers do you think could beat Hopkins if they fought in the near future.
I don't really think anyone at the moment beats Hopkins.
I disagree that he lost to Calzaghe, but I see Dawson being able to just edge him. But not by much.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
See how Kessler looks in the Super-Six, but he's the only other one.
Jermain Taylor will always have a shot since he beat him twice before.
Tavoris Cloud...has the possibility of being seriously outboxed but could also lay Hopkins low with SERIOUS power.
Arthur Abraham, fights in a similar manner as Hopkins maybe better defensively and he has good power
Mikkel Kessler bigger and stronger than Hopkins and a good boxer to boot.
None of them as long as he sits on his pavlik win like he beat ali in his prime or some shit. Look i like the guy i do, but damn personal scorecards aside the dude has lost three of his last six yet he sits around like.....ah nevermind. And stop the calzaghe thing, he lost look it up. He should fight dawson or go away.
Anyone that can work a full 10-12 rounds and box halfway decent WILL beat B-Hop, sorry that's just the way it is.
I would even give Andre Ward, Andre Dirrell, and Paul Williams the shot to beat him.
Kelly Pavlik is not as great a fighter at 168 as he is at 160...shame it is that way but he hasn't been able to adap yet, I'm sure he'll find a way though.
Kessler, maybe Dawson too if he can keep Hopkins from spoiling his work.
Dawson to me seems to be there for the taking...he has fast hands and all but he's basically one handed.
I'd like to see Glen Johnson get another shot at him
Who'd beat Hopkins currently?
Floyd Mayweather jr & Paul Williams.
That's really the only two humans that I would think had a real shot...maybe Kessler...if Kess has truly worked out his deal after losing to Calzaghe.
That's a big "IF".
Agreed...100% on the Dawson thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
He's prime for the taking & to hear people mention him as a future opponent for Hopkins...totally pleases me to no end.
Easy win for the Nard.
No one under heavyweight beats Hopkins. Come on folks Calzaghe didnt beat him, neither did Taylor. They got highly disputed split decisions they did not deserve. To the joker that put Mayweather could beat Nard?? ROFLMAO
What about Adamek if he goes up to 200? He wouldn't outbox him but he could KO him.
Joe beat him. He outworked him to the point he tried to fake getting hit low, if your winning a fight you don't do that do you? I thought it was really pathetic. He redeemed himself in the Pavlic fight for me though so I forgive the old bugger.Quote:
Originally Posted by C.J.Rock
It was close but Joe won IMO
I guess you're a fan, so nothing personal, but Joe who? (It's a Canadian thing)Quote:
Originally Posted by KelJoe beat him. He outworked him to the point he tried to fake getting hit low, if your winning a fight you don't do that do you? I thought it was really pathetic. He redeemed himself in the Pavlic fight for me though so I forgive the old bugger.Quote:
Originally Posted by C.J.Rock
It was close but Joe won IMO
Anyways,, there's an element of truth in my comment. In a few years Joe will be pretty much forgotten by all but his hard core fans. Nard will be remembered though.
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Originally Posted by C.J.Rock
Being a Hopkins fan from day one...I hate to break it to you...but Hopkins' game has changed drastically to his detriment.
Calzaghe beat Hopkins...period.
Taylor did not.
While I loved the Tarver fight & the Pavlik fight...beating those two really dint do that much for me as it did for everyone else.
Tarver was, IWHO, pushing a trail of hype & fell to the same farce @ the hands of Hopkins that RJJ did with him.
As far as Pavlik goes...love the kid...always have & always will...but his defense is HORRIBLE & when you are in against a thinking fighter like Hopkins...you are fucked from start to finish.
The thing it takes to beat Hopkins is slickness, speed, & defense.
Personally I think that Hopkins has only been beaten CONVINCINGLY once & that was by Jones...unless you consider the Nard's 175lb fight against Mitchell.
Mayweather has all the tools to defeat Hopkins...the current workrate of Hopkins is incredible...but that's only because of his age & the match ups.
I would love to see Bernard in with someone like Floyd or Sugar Shane just to see how well his defense would hope up against the constant speed & reflexes of those two.
It'd please me to know end to be able to bump up my overly scrutinized love of the man...but being a die hard fan with blinders is something I've never been...even though he's a GOAT & FOAT for me from start to finish