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Mosley's seriously starting to get a wee bit desperate, IMO he should just go ahead and take on Berto or ClotteyQuote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Shane doesn't want to fight any up and coming young lions and no fans would get on him if he didn't. Mosley wants a huge payday to ride in the sunset on. If he wanted to fight names he'd be fighting Clottey or Berto. But Mayweather is where the money is. So he'll be fighting them. Mosley knows if he fights Clottey or Berto he has more chance of getting old over night or lose. So he wants the one fight with Mayweather where win or lose he gets a big payday.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesMosley's seriously starting to get a wee bit desperate, IMO he should just go ahead and take on Berto or ClotteyQuote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
This fight needs to happen. Mayweather against the WW champion. What could be better? I much prefer it to a Pac fight.
Mosley was talking a lot of sense in there and you have to respect him because he will fight anyone and he has done so over the years. Mosley has good handspeed, a chin of rock and hits hard. It's a good test.
So Shane, the 36 year old hall of famer should have to fight the young lions, but Floyd shouldn't have to? Shane has paid his dues, he deserves a fight with Floyd. I don't care what he turned down 4 years ago, or who said he was shot 2 years ago blah blah blah.Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyShane doesn't want to fight any up and coming young lions and no fans would get on him if he didn't. Mosley wants a huge payday to ride in the sunset on. If he wanted to fight names he'd be fighting Clottey or Berto. But Mayweather is where the money is. So he'll be fighting them. Mosley knows if he fights Clottey or Berto he has more chance of getting old over night or lose. So he wants the one fight with Mayweather where win or lose he gets a big payday.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesMosley's seriously starting to get a wee bit desperate, IMO he should just go ahead and take on Berto or ClotteyQuote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by Jesse JamesSo Shane, the 36 year old hall of famer should have to fight the young lions, but Floyd shouldn't have to? Shane has paid his dues, he deserves a fight with Floyd. I don't care what he turned down 4 years ago, or who said he was shot 2 years ago blah blah blah.Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyShane doesn't want to fight any up and coming young lions and no fans would get on him if he didn't. Mosley wants a huge payday to ride in the sunset on. If he wanted to fight names he'd be fighting Clottey or Berto. But Mayweather is where the money is. So he'll be fighting them. Mosley knows if he fights Clottey or Berto he has more chance of getting old over night or lose. So he wants the one fight with Mayweather where win or lose he gets a big payday.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
I think you said it exactly right. I am big on Mosley and I am not in denial about him turning down a Mayweather fight some years back. But things have changed and he has shown he deserves a fight with Mayweather. He paid his dues and he is deserving. But I know the money is in Pac/PBF so this decision will wait until November.
Clottey a young lion? He's been fighting almost as long as Mosley and he's as old as Mayweather.
You know its the pbf camp that's twisted that story around...shane said in after the vargas fight that he had to see a dentist and then go on vacation. That dentist trip turned into surgery. so he suggested that floyd go fight someone else and then they could fight in Jan or feb...What I don't get is that if they offered shane a fight 4 years ago which is 2005. The year he fought david estrada and cruz shane certainly wasn't a draw then, so the logic is off. Why offer shane a fight then when he clearly wasn't as big of a draw as he is now having set the record for attendance at the staples center? Could it be they thought Shane was washed and Floyd could capitalize of gaining a victory over a former pound for pound number 1...That floyd camp has some crafty fight dodgers...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesse JamesSo Shane, the 36 year old hall of famer should have to fight the young lions, but Floyd shouldn't have to? Shane has paid his dues, he deserves a fight with Floyd. I don't care what he turned down 4 years ago, or who said he was shot 2 years ago blah blah blah.Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyShane doesn't want to fight any up and coming young lions and no fans would get on him if he didn't. Mosley wants a huge payday to ride in the sunset on. If he wanted to fight names he'd be fighting Clottey or Berto. But Mayweather is where the money is. So he'll be fighting them. Mosley knows if he fights Clottey or Berto he has more chance of getting old over night or lose. So he wants the one fight with Mayweather where win or lose he gets a big payday.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
That doesn't make sense to me. If anything, Mosley is slower now than four years ago, more dangerous then than now. If anything, he's more of a draw which is THE thing that gets Mayweather's attention. I think the only reason why they wouldn't fight Mosley is because Pac-Cotto is on the horizon and that's a lock for mo' money.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherYou know its the pbf camp that's twisted that story around...shane said in after the vargas fight that he had to see a dentist and then go on vacation. That dentist trip turned into surgery. so he suggested that floyd go fight someone else and then they could fight in Jan or feb...What I don't get is that if they offered shane a fight 4 years ago which is 2005. The year he fought david estrada and cruz shane certainly wasn't a draw then, so the logic is off. Why offer shane a fight then when he clearly wasn't as big of a draw as he is now having set the record for attendance at the staples center? Could it be they thought Shane was washed and Floyd could capitalize of gaining a victory over a former pound for pound number 1...That floyd camp has some crafty fight dodgers...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesse JamesSo Shane, the 36 year old hall of famer should have to fight the young lions, but Floyd shouldn't have to? Shane has paid his dues, he deserves a fight with Floyd. I don't care what he turned down 4 years ago, or who said he was shot 2 years ago blah blah blah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
Go back and watch shane fight in 2005 vs how he recently looked against margarito and see is he was faster. Its about confidence, back then shane was fighting his way back from two losses to Winky, not coming off the biggest upset of the year. And he's clearly a much bigger draw now than he was in 2005. Everyone had written shane off after the losses to winky.Quote:
Originally Posted by KillfaceThat doesn't make sense to me. If anything, Mosley is slower now than four years ago, more dangerous then than now. If anything, he's more of a draw which is THE thing that gets Mayweather's attention. I think the only reason why they wouldn't fight Mosley is because Pac-Cotto is on the horizon and that's a lock for mo' money.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherYou know its the pbf camp that's twisted that story around...shane said in after the vargas fight that he had to see a dentist and then go on vacation. That dentist trip turned into surgery. so he suggested that floyd go fight someone else and then they could fight in Jan or feb...What I don't get is that if they offered shane a fight 4 years ago which is 2005. The year he fought david estrada and cruz shane certainly wasn't a draw then, so the logic is off. Why offer shane a fight then when he clearly wasn't as big of a draw as he is now having set the record for attendance at the staples center? Could it be they thought Shane was washed and Floyd could capitalize of gaining a victory over a former pound for pound number 1...That floyd camp has some crafty fight dodgers...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesse James
Mayweather's reasoning is that shane isnt a draw, but he's more of a draw now than then, so why call him out then and not now?