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Anyone else think this would be a good fight? obviously David has to get a few more wins under his belt but he is a big name in the heavyweight division so this fight would sell i would love to see this. David is one of the biggest heavyweight punchers ever i really would like to see him win a world title before he retires.
I think Wlad would probably win a 12 round jab fest (jabs by Wlad, not Tua lol) but Tua always has a punchers chance
even if Wladimir KO'd Tua there's no way he'd get any respect from the haters. I wouldn't mind seeing this fight happen and seeing Wladimir demolish Tua with that right cross.
I do think that Vitali would be the brother people would want to see Tua fight, although I don't have as much faith in his chin as I once did after watching him avoid many of Cris Arreola's punches, although he is a smart fighter and it isn't like him to just take punches for no reason.
Just a matter of time before somebody catches that glass Jaw again though Lyle. The only reason Wlad has not beed Koed again is due the horrible lack of decent opposition available ;)
You can only beat who is put infront of you...Tua ain't exactly a defensive mastermind and Manny Steward has already worked a corner with a fighter who had a style and skill set similar to Wladimir's.
I think Wlad has been active, he's very well conditioned, he's able to handle pressure a bit better, he's more relaxed in the ring, and he doesn't waste his punches. Tua has been on and off 2 years without having a fight TWICE, and he's fought tomato cans...at this point in time Wladimir would school him BIG TIME.
Everyone complains about the heavyweight division, it's not bad, it's just competitive below the championship level as opposed to competitive AT the championship level. Middleweight isn't competitive at the championship level what with Abraham gone....Paul Williams has a shot at beating Kelly Pavlik but if he doesn't then middleweight isn't any better than heavyweight but nobody bitches about that. 140 and 154 has the opposite problem, no one person is ruling those divisions and so you don't get a dominant champion but you get competition at the championship level....doesn't make those weight classes more exciting.
Tua acts as if he doesn't want a huge fight.He's a walking punchers chance,especially with Wlads jake in the box chin, but he can easily be outboxed.If Wlad keeps it smart & mobile and throws a few more right hands down the middle he would take a wide 12 I believe.
Tua is as ready as he will ever be. I don't think at 37 he is learning new tricks. he has the ability to make all boxers buckle under his granite fists. Throw him in there sooner than later and let him do his thing!
What has he got to lose? More New Zealand HW sub-title clashes?
Tua would be a 1:2 dog in my book. With a good possibility of catching him early.
Tua at this point is too slow,too fat, and hasn't been active. Seriuosly when and who was his last fight Saul Montana? about 2 years ago! Wlad would box Tua for about 8 rounds and probably make Tua quit just like the rest of them. I believe we've had this conversation before. Only it was Rahman who was going to stop Wlad.
Wlad would just jab the hell out of Tua for 12 rounds.Tua would have a punchers chance in the first couple of rounds but he is to slow these days and i doubt he would trouble Wlad at all.
I'm not sure if even the best version of TUa would beat this version of Wlad, he is just too good at using his height, and his jab is just too hard for anyone to walk right in if he actually puts any weight behind it. He doesn't need to hurt Tua, just snap his head back to stop a guy temporarily in their tracks, and Wlad is much too quick of foot for Tua to catch up to him.
Not only would Tua have to hit Wlad, he'd have to follow up...and as good as Wladimir is at using space, the jab, and well placed power punches Ithink he would bludgeon David Tua, I would not be surprised 1 bit if Wlad stopped him...I also wouldn't be surprised if nobody gave him credit for it
Beating Shane Cameron doesn't mean shiit. Wlad would demolish Tua. It would either be Tua retiring or the referee calling it off somewhere between the 7th & 11th round or it would be one-sided beatdown of epic proportions. If Tua had more speed than maybe. But he doesn't & then after the fight we'll all complain about Wlad taking on shot fighters & avoiding the young guns of the division. It's painfully predictable
Is the ref gonna allow holding whenever Tua gets inside so that they can seperate and Wladimer can control distance? I think the refs need to let the Klits know about holding and actually penalize them for holding whenever someone gets close and they hold him. That's illegal isnt it?
Wlad, and I'm not sure Tua would even put up that great of an effort.
There's a limit to how much credit or credibility you can give Vlad because at the back of your mind is the knowledge that he got knocked out by a pro-celebrity golfer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle