Erdei finally steps up, challenging Fragomeni for WBC Cruiserweight Title
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WBO light heavyweight champion Zsolt Erdei (30-0, 17 KOs) and WBC cruiserweight champion Giacobbe Fragomeni (26-1-1, 10 KOs) will meet on November 21 at the Sparkassen Arena in Kiel, Germany. The bout will be for Fragomeni’s cruiserweight belt.
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Good to see you back in the game mate!!!
Although i've no 1dea about tis bout:confused:
Re: Erdei finally steps up, challenging Fragomeni for WBC Cruiserweight Title
Should be a good fight, great to see Erdei finally in there against a ranked guy!!!
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Good news...I followed Erdeis career since he became WBO champ and he is a good guy...the lack of quality opponents is a management problem...I think Erdie is willing to fight the best,but the best aren't that willing to fight Erdei or something llike that...Anyway Erdei is a small guy I don't know if its suits him to go up to cruiser,but we will see...
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JohnnyKickAss
Good news...I followed Erdeis career since he became WBO champ and he is a good guy...the lack of quality opponents is a management problem...I think Erdie is willing to fight the best,but the best aren't that willing to fight Erdei or something llike that...Anyway Erdei is a small guy I don't know if its suits him to go up to cruiser,but we will see...
What?? Really??
I don't know if it's Erdei or his management team, but anyone who struggles with Hugo Garay is not fit to be in the same ring as Bernard Hopkins, Chad Dawson or Glen Johnson. Hell, probably not even Antonio Tarver.
About time Erdei actually fought someone with something approaching a pulse. Apart from Garay & Gonzalez, his opposition has been hideous. Makes Sven Ottke's resume look like Archie Moore's.
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JohnnyKickAss
Good news...I followed Erdeis career since he became WBO champ and he is a good guy...the lack of quality opponents is a management problem...I think Erdie is willing to fight the best,but the best aren't that willing to fight Erdei or something llike that...Anyway Erdei is a small guy I don't know if its suits him to go up to cruiser,but we will see...
I'm a bit surprised by the move also, I think its a very winnable fight for Erdei but I would have liked to see him in bouts with guys like Pascal, Cloud, Tarver, Mack or Braehmer
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Re: Erdei finally steps up, challenging Fragomeni for WBC Cruiserweight Title
Re: Erdei finally steps up, challenging Fragomeni for WBC Cruiserweight Title
imo not a step up fragomeni should of lost his last fight
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JazMerkin
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Originally Posted by
JohnnyKickAss
Good news...I followed Erdeis career since he became WBO champ and he is a good guy...the lack of quality opponents is a management problem...I think Erdie is willing to fight the best,but the best aren't that willing to fight Erdei or something llike that...Anyway Erdei is a small guy I don't know if its suits him to go up to cruiser,but we will see...
What?? Really??
I don't know if it's Erdei or his management team, but anyone who struggles with Hugo Garay is not fit to be in the same ring as Bernard Hopkins, Chad Dawson or Glen Johnson. Hell, probably not even Antonio Tarver.
About time Erdei actually fought someone with something approaching a pulse. Apart from Garay & Gonzalez, his opposition has been hideous. Makes Sven Ottke's resume look like Archie Moore's.
Yes...he struggled with Garay,but he won...styles make fights and apparently pressure fighters aren't Erdeis thing(I guess he would have even more problems with Johnson)...he is still a very slick and crafty boxer...I don't know if he can beat the guys you mentioned above,but he will give all of them a hard time and more importantly is willing to fight them...he is internationally unknown thats why he won't get a big name fight...money...
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JazMerkin
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Originally Posted by
JohnnyKickAss
Good news...I followed Erdeis career since he became WBO champ and he is a good guy...the lack of quality opponents is a management problem...I think Erdie is willing to fight the best,but the best aren't that willing to fight Erdei or something llike that...Anyway Erdei is a small guy I don't know if its suits him to go up to cruiser,but we will see...
What?? Really??
I don't know if it's Erdei or his management team, but anyone who struggles with Hugo Garay is not fit to be in the same ring as Bernard Hopkins, Chad Dawson or Glen Johnson. Hell, probably not even Antonio Tarver.
About time Erdei actually fought someone with something approaching a pulse.
Apart from Garay & Gonzalez, his opposition has been hideous. Makes Sven Ottke's resume look like Archie Moore's.
You know what's funny? His best opponent was Sven Ottke himself ! in the final of the Amateurs European Championships in '96 ....and he lost ;)
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JohnnyKickAss
Yes...he struggled with Garay,but he won...styles make fights and apparently pressure fighters aren't Erdeis thing(I guess he would have even more problems with Johnson)...he is still a very slick and crafty boxer...I don't know if he can beat the guys you mentioned above,but he will give all of them a hard time and more importantly is willing to fight them...he is internationally unknown thats why he won't get a big name fight...money...
Sorry, I just don't buy that. Erdei has had many an opportunity to chase better fights, & I actually think he's a pretty good fighter. But his level of competition is a disgrace. He has a world title belt, many guys would chase that, yet they're ducking him?? Sorry mate, but it comes down to either Erdei himself or his promoters/management. He actually is internationally known - as the kind of fighter who is killing boxing, defending a belt & taking on now real challengers. Up until this point he has shown no willingness to test himself. I give him credit for stepping up & taking on Fragomeni, but this is after 5 years. I mean Paul Murdoch was a guy who'd never fought above tomato can level convincingly & he somehow got a shot at a world title :rolleyes:
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JazMerkin
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JohnnyKickAss
Yes...he struggled with Garay,but he won...styles make fights and apparently pressure fighters aren't Erdeis thing(I guess he would have even more problems with Johnson)...he is still a very slick and crafty boxer...I don't know if he can beat the guys you mentioned above,but he will give all of them a hard time and more importantly is willing to fight them...he is internationally unknown thats why he won't get a big name fight...money...
Sorry, I just don't buy that. Erdei has had many an opportunity to chase better fights, & I actually think he's a pretty good fighter. But his level of competition is a disgrace. He has a world title belt, many guys would chase that, yet they're ducking him?? Sorry mate, but it comes down to either Erdei himself or his promoters/management. He actually is internationally known - as the kind of fighter who is killing boxing, defending a belt & taking on now real challengers. Up until this point he has shown no willingness to test himself. I give him credit for stepping up & taking on Fragomeni, but this is after 5 years. I mean Paul Murdoch was a guy who'd never fought above tomato can level convincingly & he somehow got a shot at a world title :rolleyes:
I think if it would have gone Erdeis way he would have fought better opposition...at least we agree about the bad management of him...Erdei himself complained about it something like 1 1/2 year ago...that his management wouldn't give him better opposition(better known names),but he later backed off,apologising and saying that he wouldn't be where he is without his management...some time later it looked like Erdei would get his wish and fight Danny Green,who recently(at that time) won the light heavy title from Stipe Drews,but Green retired a bit later...
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SaltyBacon
imo not a step up fragomeni should of lost his last fight
Erdei's moving up in weight for start & although I agree that Wlodarczyk won that fight Fragomeni fought well over the second half of the fight against a very capable opponent... like VD said its a minor step up
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Violent Demise
It's a minor step up
Very minor. Basically, just a step up in weight. Why didn't he try and unify at lhw?