Does Floyd Mayweather has anything to back up all his trash talk against Pacman?

Any big names he has beaten that I can think of, Manny has completely destroyed. Floyd only did better against JMM which was older and out of his weight class when compared to when he fought Pacquiao. Floyd is fast and so is Pacquiao who also has a way better KO rate than Floyd. (Floyd has 25/40 or 63% to Pacman's 38/50 or 76%) The whole world is calling this fight out because they want to see Floyd lose. So how could Floyd come out victorious being the underdog he appears to be in this fight? (when it happens)

Please don't mention his inflated record. That is pretty much null.

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Originally Posted by Zylaoker

Any big names he has beaten that I can think of, Manny has completely destroyed. Floyd only did better against JMM which was older and out of his weight class when compared to when he fought Pacquiao. Floyd is fast and so is Pacquiao who also has a way better KO rate than Floyd. (Floyd has 25/40 or 63% to Pacman's 38/50 or 76%) The whole world is calling this fight out because they want to see Floyd lose. So how could Floyd come out victorious being the underdog he appears to be in this fight? (when it happens)

Please don't mention his inflated record. That is pretty much null.

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That goes both ways, the De La Hoya that Pacquiao beat was older than the one Mayweather fought and completely weight drained. I think Floyd wins the fight because Pac has proven in the past he gets troubled by effective counter punchers e.g. JMM, and none are better than Mayweather in this department. Pac has a better resume than Floyd for sure, but IMO his style doesn't match up well at all to Mayweather's and i see him getting beaten by late stioppage or by UD

I really don't know why people want to see Pacquiao against maywetaher.

Pacquiao/Cotto was GREAT toe-to-toe action for the first 6 or 7 rds, but the combination of heavy punches and the furious pace that only Pacquiao can maintain left Cotto on fumes from rd 8 on.

Then in the 2nd half, the fans got antsy as Cotto's heart alone kept him on his feet from rds 8 to 12 where he was reduced to basically running from Pacquiao.
Cotto's corner should have saved their man by rd 9.
He had no energy and no punch left, and Pac was on fire.

Those last 5 rds of Pacquiao chasing Cotto around is basically what you'll see all fight long if maywetaher ever deigns to step in with Pacquiao.

I really think he's just going to continue to follow his MO since 2001 and the great Corrales fight, the MO where he began avoiding virtually ALL the dangerous fighters and fighting 2nd and 3rd tier opposition instead in boring 12 rds sleep-inducers.
In the past 8 years, Hatton is the sole top-tier guy that Floyd has fought near his weight class! :o

Pacquiao's been fighting all the dangerous guys and devastating them.
True Greatness, TRUE Legacy, because to be the best, you have to fight the best.
What did floyd ever do during the past 8 years that warranted people saying Floyd was the pound-for-pound #1?

I never saw it.

I've been saying Pacquiao was pound-for-pound #1 since Nov 2006 since the third Morales fight based on quality of opposition.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x.../FloydDoll.jpg

Floyd says he's greater than Sugar Ray Robinson?:

At 30 years old, Sugar Ray Robinson was 128 wins, 1 loss, 2 draws, (loss avenged 3 weeks later), against Hall-of-Fame competition too.

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I'd much rather see Pacquiao against Shane Mosley.

Now there'd be a fight, one worth remembering.

Shane's gotten old, but the Margarito fight proved that Shane can still go.

:box3:

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Yes, unmatched talent in the ring.

Nothing I can think of.

Corrales
Castillo
Judah
Oscar
Hatton
Marquez

Those are big names. But IMO Pac has had the better opposition especially as of late. His fights with the mexican trio alone is remarkable.

Mayweather has some decent names on his resume,,,, but regardless of that,,, it is the manner in which he has beat his opponents that backs up his talk against Pac....


He couldn't smack talk guys at say, 154, because we've seen that he's not willing to step to far out of his comfort zone... And if he did start talking smack about guys at 154, the immediate thought that comes to mind is "Well, put your money where your mouth is"...


But as far as Pac goes, Mayweather's career has everything required to back up his mouth....

Just reading over some of the previous posts in this thread though,,, a suggestion for some of the people who seem to be blinded by Pac's successes of late, need to seriously go back and actually watch a bunch of Floyd fights...


To say he has nothing to back up his talk is crazy... As much as I hate his mouth, he is one of the few boxers of our time that looks THAT impressive in the ring that he can claim whatever he wants outside the ring and it will probably be true.....


Like I said, i've been swept up into the hype of other fighters, especially when there is the prospect of them beating Floyd (whom i have a love/hate relationship with), but every time he has gone into the fight and done everything perfect and my hype for the other fighter was all for nothing...


Just go back and look at Mayweather's opponents and their wins in other fights, then look at what Mayweather does to them...


It is ignorant and next to unbelievable that someone here actually said he has "nothing that I can think of" that backs up his talk against Pac..

This is what makes people mad about Pac fans.. I love Pac more than any other fighter, but as a BOXING fan FIRST, you gotta take off the blinkers and actually acknowledge reality...

God this is my third post in this thread and I could go on for another 10 because it's so stupid...


I don't know anyone who's making Floyd the underdog... Maybe the actual ODD's at a bookie would have Pac favourite just because they know all the money will go on Pac and they need to protect themselves...


But FOR F'CKS SAKE PEOPLE...

SOMEONE, SOMEONE, Go and watch All of Floyds fights, or at LEAST the last 10, and come back and say anything even CLOSE to what has been mentioned above??



And for the one comment about Floyd running, yeah he doesn't stand toe to toe.. Sometimes boxing is a chess match and not just a head on biffo... Floyd does not fight an incredibly action packed brand of boxing, but his skills in defence in almost unsurpassed by anyone I have ever seen, and I find it incredibly entertaining watching him do his thing, and watching very tallented boxers otherwise, try to beat that...

It will take something incredibly special to KO Floyd, or even win on points against him, and I hope Pac can do that.. I would be in ECSTACY to watch Pac do that..

But Floyd will be the favourite for just about ANYONE who has watched both of these fighters fight....

I just think people are ignorant or forgetful of just how good Floyd is, so go back and watch his fights.. Forget his record or anything else. His KO ratio means nothing. How he did against Marquez compared to Pac means nothing... It's whether Pac can get in that ring, and either stop him, or be effective enough to win on points....

If you think this fight is a forgone conclusion for Pac then that just leaves me speachless... Or actually that's the wrong word considering I can't stop going on about this...

I just think people are ignoring reality a bit to say Floyd isn't bringing much into a fight other than his mouth and his inflated record..

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Originally Posted by Zylaoker

Any big names he has beaten that I can think of, Manny has completely destroyed. Floyd only did better against JMM which was older and out of his weight class when compared to when he fought Pacquiao. Floyd is fast and so is Pacquiao who also has a way better KO rate than Floyd. (Floyd has 25/40 or 63% to Pacman's 38/50 or 76%) The whole world is calling this fight out because they want to see Floyd lose. So how could Floyd come out victorious being the underdog he appears to be in this fight? (when it happens)

Please don't mention his inflated record. That is pretty much null.

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You said PBF's inflated record but you just inflated Pac's KO percentage. You have to count how many fights Pac has been in, losses and draws, not just his wins. Otherwise, a guy who is 1-22 with 1 KO would have a 100% KO record. So Pac's KO percentage is slightly better than PBF's not way better.

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Originally Posted by Dizaster

God this is my third post in this thread and I could go on for another 10 because it's so stupid...


I don't know anyone who's making Floyd the underdog... Maybe the actual ODD's at a bookie would have Pac favourite just because they know all the money will go on Pac and they need to protect themselves...


But FOR F'CKS SAKE PEOPLE...

SOMEONE, SOMEONE, Go and watch All of Floyds fights, or at LEAST the last 10, and come back and say anything even CLOSE to what has been mentioned above??



And for the one comment about Floyd running, yeah he doesn't stand toe to toe.. Sometimes boxing is a chess match and not just a head on biffo... Floyd does not fight an incredibly action packed brand of boxing, but his skills in defence in almost unsurpassed by anyone I have ever seen, and I find it incredibly entertaining watching him do his thing, and watching very tallented boxers otherwise, try to beat that...

It will take something incredibly special to KO Floyd, or even win on points against him, and I hope Pac can do that.. I would be in ECSTACY to watch Pac do that..

But Floyd will be the favourite for just about ANYONE who has watched both of these fighters fight....

I just think people are ignorant or forgetful of just how good Floyd is, so go back and watch his fights.. Forget his record or anything else. His KO ratio means nothing. How he did against Marquez compared to Pac means nothing... It's whether Pac can get in that ring, and either stop him, or be effective enough to win on points....

If you think this fight is a forgone conclusion for Pac then that just leaves me speachless... Or actually that's the wrong word considering I can't stop going on about this...

I just think people are ignoring reality a bit to say Floyd isn't bringing much into a fight other than his mouth and his inflated record..

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I'm with you Dizaster. I am a Pac fan but I can't stand it when people just flat out lie because they hate another fighter. Anybody with average boxing knowledge can break most of these posts down as just hatred. Both PBF and Pac have a strong argument to back themselves up in this possible matchup.

It's a fight that goes either way for me, though I will be rooting for Manny to take away that 0 and outhustle him. Dizaster is right that it's a bit silly for people simply dismiss Floyds chances.

I get on Floyds back over recent quality of opposition and his antics outside the ring, but there is no denying that he is a mighty fine boxer. He is extremely difficult to hit cleanly and though he is isn't the most exciting fighter offensively, he does have an impeccable defence.

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Originally Posted by miles

It's a fight that goes either way for me, though I will be rooting for Manny to take away that 0 and outhustle him. Dizaster is right that it's a bit silly for people simply dismiss Floyds chances.

I get on Floyds back over recent quality of opposition and his antics outside the ring, but there is no denying that he is a mighty fine boxer. He is extremely difficult to hit cleanly and though he is isn't the most exciting fighter offensively, he does have an impeccable defence.

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if anything i'd say that Pacquiao's the slight underdog (but not by much) going into this fight, given how dominant Floyd has been his entire career