I was wrong, but i'm stunned by the reactin to last nights fight

When the Super Six was announced, I really considered Ward a rank outsider, who had basically no chance of winning the tournament. Even when I read reports by experts believing Ward had what it took to beat Kesler, I didn't believe it. So I was totally wrong, and I must admit I was so impressed by Ward last night.

What shocks me though is that so many people have come on here claiming that the headbutts where intentional. C'mon people, what fight where you watching? Ward was awesome last night. He put on a clinic. He didn't run, he backed Kessler up on numerous occasions and beat the crap out of him. Seriously, if the doctor hadn't stopped it I could have seen the fight being stopped by the referee because he was starting to take some big shots. C'mon guys, give Ward credit, that was totally impressive.

Dammit!!!!

I put Ward in my top three picks...but really didn't expect him to blaze through Kess the way that you say he did.

No shit...I'm shocked. I gave Ward a shot at beating everyone outside of Kessler & Abraham...which is who I thought would be the last men standing...we shall see.

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Originally Posted by bzkfn

When the Super Six was announced, I really considered Ward a rank outsider, who had basically no chance of winning the tournament. Even when I read reports by experts believing Ward had what it took to beat Kesler, I didn't believe it. So I was totally wrong, and I must admit I was so impressed by Ward last night.

What shocks me though is that so many people have come on here claiming that the headbutts where intentional. C'mon people, what fight where you watching? Ward was awesome last night. He put on a clinic. He didn't run, he backed Kessler up on numerous occasions and beat the crap out of him. Seriously, if the doctor hadn't stopped it I could have seen the fight being stopped by the referee because he was starting to take some big shots. C'mon guys, give Ward credit, that was totally impressive.

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havent seen the fight yet mate, did he do a better job than calzaghe

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Originally Posted by bzkfn

When the Super Six was announced, I really considered Ward a rank outsider, who had basically no chance of winning the tournament. Even when I read reports by experts believing Ward had what it took to beat Kesler, I didn't believe it. So I was totally wrong, and I must admit I was so impressed by Ward last night.

What shocks me though is that so many people have come on here claiming that the headbutts where intentional. C'mon people, what fight where you watching? Ward was awesome last night. He put on a clinic. He didn't run, he backed Kessler up on numerous occasions and beat the crap out of him. Seriously, if the doctor hadn't stopped it I could have seen the fight being stopped by the referee because he was starting to take some big shots. C'mon guys, give Ward credit, that was totally impressive.

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havent seen the fight yet mate, did he do a better job than calzaghe

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People will say he totally dominated others will say it was a dirty job, best to watch it for yourself before getting bombarded with bias either way.

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Originally Posted by bzkfn

When the Super Six was announced, I really considered Ward a rank outsider, who had basically no chance of winning the tournament. Even when I read reports by experts believing Ward had what it took to beat Kesler, I didn't believe it. So I was totally wrong, and I must admit I was so impressed by Ward last night.

What shocks me though is that so many people have come on here claiming that the headbutts where intentional. C'mon people, what fight where you watching? Ward was awesome last night. He put on a clinic. He didn't run, he backed Kessler up on numerous occasions and beat the crap out of him. Seriously, if the doctor hadn't stopped it I could have seen the fight being stopped by the referee because he was starting to take some big shots. C'mon guys, give Ward credit, that was totally impressive.

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havent seen the fight yet mate, did he do a better job than calzaghe

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People will say he totally dominated others will say it was a dirty job, best to watch it for yourself before getting bombarded with bias either way.

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true, gonna check and see if it is on youtube

Totally agree.Way to many excuses today in general.I dont think it was intentional and no one had Kesslers hands tied behind his back.I picked Kessler to get to him late,Ward fought an outstanding fight and was not exactly zahir raheem in there.He stepped into Kessler,pushed him very early on and fought him.

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Originally Posted by bzkfn

When the Super Six was announced, I really considered Ward a rank outsider, who had basically no chance of winning the tournament. Even when I read reports by experts believing Ward had what it took to beat Kesler, I didn't believe it. So I was totally wrong, and I must admit I was so impressed by Ward last night.

What shocks me though is that so many people have come on here claiming that the headbutts where intentional. C'mon people, what fight where you watching? Ward was awesome last night. He put on a clinic. He didn't run, he backed Kessler up on numerous occasions and beat the crap out of him. Seriously, if the doctor hadn't stopped it I could have seen the fight being stopped by the referee because he was starting to take some big shots. C'mon guys, give Ward credit, that was totally impressive.

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havent seen the fight yet mate, did he do a better job than calzaghe

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People will say he totally dominated others will say it was a dirty job, best to watch it for yourself before getting bombarded with bias either way.

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I'd say both :cool:

It was a whole lot of one and a tiny bit of the other. He had some tricks up his sleeve on the inside but he absolutely schooled him. Ward could have fought the whole fight like he did in the first 2 rounds, only change it up occasionally, and won nearly every round of the fight. Ward went out and on the outside, where Kessler is at his absolute best, shut him down, outquicked him and didn't let him get set to punch.

Where was Kessler's vaunted right hand? The one that Edison Miranda landed so well against Ward? Shut down, did he land a single one? It was in fact a masterclass and the scorecards are evidence of it. A bit dirty, not always the prettiest but Ward essentially won every minute of that fight. A masterclass on the best fighter of the tournament.

And btw- Ward showed a clear distinction between his style of fighting and Dirrell's. Not that it needs pointing out but Ward showed how you can still use your hand and foot speed advantages to be aggressive. Ward was a lot of things last night, 'negative' was not one of them.

ward's a whole lot better than dirrell. not nearly as sloppy.

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And btw- Ward showed a clear distinction between his style of fighting and Dirrell's. Not that it needs pointing out but Ward showed how you can still use your hand and foot speed advantages to be aggressive. Ward was a lot of things last night, 'negative' was not one of them.

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You're a 'negative' poster :p;D

Does anybody really think Ward should have had a point taken off for holding? If you do you're way overdoing how much he was holding. I didn't have a problem with the point taken from Dirrell for excessive holding (although that ref was worse than this one overall) but to take one from Ward would have been absurd.

And punching in the clinch? Really? This is boxing ffs. A lot of the time it was happening it was Kessler holding anyway. And the ref would break them which helped Kessler if anything cause he absolutely didn't even attempt to fight inside. LOL at punching in the clinch. Its exactly what Froch was doing except Ward was actually punching Kessler in legal areas of the body instead of the back of the head.

I've gotta check the headbutts again but that's all that I think is that questionable. I've just downloaded a good copy of the fight that I can send to people who are outraged about it but haven't seen it.

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Originally Posted by bzkfn

When the Super Six was announced, I really considered Ward a rank outsider, who had basically no chance of winning the tournament. Even when I read reports by experts believing Ward had what it took to beat Kesler, I didn't believe it. So I was totally wrong, and I must admit I was so impressed by Ward last night.

What shocks me though is that so many people have come on here claiming that the headbutts where intentional. C'mon people, what fight where you watching? Ward was awesome last night. He put on a clinic. He didn't run, he backed Kessler up on numerous occasions and beat the crap out of him. Seriously, if the doctor hadn't stopped it I could have seen the fight being stopped by the referee because he was starting to take some big shots. C'mon guys, give Ward credit, that was totally impressive.

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the headbutts were hardly a case of their heads meeting whilst engaging, ward was leading with the head, especially the butt that caused the fight ending cut, kesslers head was stationary and ward just pushed his head in kesslers face...

no excuses though, kessler was getting schooled, he couldnt handle wards movement and didnt really have time to set his feet

Only have gotten to round 4 and Ward looks amazing in the fight, and up until this point he is fighting the perfect fight.

Although a lot of this has been hilariously over blown Jaz was right about Ward holding his left out as a measuring stick, refs should watch that in his future fights.