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Missed the return of one of my favourite fighters last night, because yet again, it wasnt televised in Britain. Good to see Pavlik return to his knockout ways and from what i hear, Espino put up a brave effort before getting stopped so kudos to him. For the people who saw the fight, what did you think?
This is no disrespect to your post at all and definitely directed at Pavlik, I just find it hilarious that nobody cares :)
No threads about the fight last night
Pavlik has apparently said he is ready for Williams now.Quote:
Originally Posted by markb018
The problem for Pavlik to me as far as no one caring about him is he doesn't have the options he once did opponent wise. He showed against Hopkins that he wasn't an effective LHW so moving up that far is not an option. The obvious fight for him upto 12 months ago was Abraham but he's signed upto the super six which makes him unavailable for Pavlik for at least another 18 months. That leaves him Williams and that is a no win fight for Pavlik IMO. If he wins he will be beating a former WW (even though I think Williams is a natural MW) but if he gets beat off Williams then his career could well be over, because he wouldn't bring much to the table financially should he be beaten by a "WW" and he would be very dangerous to any big name fighter in the future due to his great power and would be avoided quite a bit i think!!
i don't think nobody cares about pavlik. he's still a major player. i think it's becoz people here don't post that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by markb018
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Originally Posted by zbolti don't think nobody cares about pavlik. he's still a major player. i think it's becoz people here don't post that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by markb018
I think the fact he was fighting a guy that Peter Manfredo smashed up says it all.
i created a thread about 2 hours ago, hatton vs. khan possible fight next year. until now it got no replies. people here don't post that much i thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight ....:-XQuote:
Originally Posted by zbolti don't think nobody cares about pavlik. he's still a major player. i think it's becoz people here don't post that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by markb018
He did ok. He showed good power and poor defense, which I guess is expected at this point. He and Arum also made themselves look like assholes in the post-fight interview IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoggmeister
There was a stickied thread dedicate to the fight. It was just a gimme fight with an expected outcome, so I don't think people really have much to say about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by markb018
I dont like Pavlik right now, due to the fact he made that fight right after Williams got a fight. He clearly ducked Williams and Jack Loew is a douchbag hypocrite because he was calling JT a ducker to get that fight. Well moreso I dont like Loew, Pavlik is alright he just needs to stop doing stupid shit outside the ring.
or it could be no one is interested in the tired subject of Hatton vs Khan, it's a fight that's been discussed numerous times, the guys who post here on a regular basis have a minimum of 1,000 posts, you don't do that in five minutes :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by zbolti created a thread about 2 hours ago, hatton vs. khan possible fight next year. until now it got no replies. people here don't post that much i thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight ....:-XQuote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
That sums it up. These middle of the road fights, which are little more than sparring sessions with knockouts, are seldom likely to have people frothing at the mouth and posting in mad excitment about what they have just witnessed.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
Pavlik won and the interest in him is there, it's just it wasn't a particularly meaningful fight. Now, if Williams/Pavlik gets back on again, I am sure it will garner plenty of attention.
Pavliks a decent fighter, it's just that he became derailed post Hopkins. I like the guy and hope he can get back on track again.
HE says he's ready for Williams and HBO says he's ready for Bute... quite curious how it'll turn out...
I like Kelly Pavlik, but his last two opponents have been shite, and in between those he contracted a nasty infection.
The trouble with Pavlik is that he is one dimensional. What he does, he does very well (jab,jab,right hand) but he's always going to struggle against a really good mover. Lets put it this way, if he was taking the shots he was taking last night against a real middleweight he would have been flat on his back. The bloke was cannon fodder.
Yep, Pavlik needs Williams right now there are no two ways about it. Because there is nothing out there for him at the minute.
He needs an opponent, because the man is wasting what should be the best earning years of his life here.
Pavlik did what he had to do on Saturday night. I think Pavlik intentionally let it be more exciting than it needed to be so that he could knock him out fast, which he did. No one doubted Pavlik wasn't among the better middleweights.
I find it hard to believe that Pavlik ducked Williams. I see the facts, but prior to the Williams debacle, Pavlik took on all comers even when it required him going up ten pounds in weight to fight a top five p4p guy in Hopkins. He fought Jermain when Jermain had beat Hopkins and Miranda after he broke Abraham's jaw in two places. Why would he duck Williams - a guy who jumped up from welterweight? Then again, I too can read the facts and the whole situation clearly looked suspect - though Pavlik's explanation makes sense. After putting off the Williams fight, he wanted to wait until February to fight again, but the sanctioning bodies threatened to strip him of his belts if he didn't face a mandatory. Thus, the Espino fight. Espino was a weak mandatory but that is a different subject.
Other than a fight with Williams, a fight with Felix Sturm makes sense. Both are top five middleweights on anyone's list and the fight would be an unifying fight. Fighting Sturm in Germany is big money too.