Who you think wins this? I think Dirrell with the correct game plan can take this, what do you guys reckon?
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Who you think wins this? I think Dirrell with the correct game plan can take this, what do you guys reckon?
I think Dirrell wins this but he will make it interesting now because of the Froch controversial loss. Abraham is the wrong guy to take too many chances with but now Dirrell is forced to do such. But I think he wins because he will feel Abraham's power and just box circles around him. Dirrell is a superior athlete but he just needs to box smart and get overanxious trying to prove something. I think this is actually the best matchup to beat Abraham.
Where is the fight taking place? I thought Froch got a purely home decision when he fought Dirrel. In my opinion, the only time Froch was able to make an impact against Dirrel was when he was fighting dirty.
If Dirrell can stick to a boxing play and not grapple and fall all over the place then I think he could win this, otherwise he'll be shaking his head at the end wondering why he got robbed again.
I never realised this fight was round the corner! Thanks for the heads up :0)
Both these fighters seem to have their fair share of detractors because of their styles. Speaking of styles, it's not a great match-up.
I think Abraham is really going to struggle to throw against Dirrel, let a lone land punches.
This fight could go two ways, obviously the most likely outcome is that Dirrell is careful and boxes 12 seemingly uneventful rounds.
If not then something amazingly spectacular happens fairly quickly and a lot of people jump on the AA express.
I like, and therefore will be rooting for spectacular :cool:
No way Abraham gets the decision in the States, especially considering the next round is Dirrell-Ward. No promoter or Showtime want to sell an all-American fight with one coming off two losses.
Hopefully Abraham gets the KO (he'll need it). The thought of amat crying is very satisfying.
Showtime could help hype Dirrell up by playing him as the innocent American looking for some redemption after being so wrongly done by the arrogant, scheming Brits. Show a scene from Mel Gibson's The Patriot where the Brits burn down a Church filled with people. And so on.
He's gotta try to frustrate Abraham. But at least he has a chance here.
I disagree. Ward-Dirrell was never a big fight; it is probably the smallest money fight of every possible match-up in the Super Six and this is the case whether or not Dirrell wins his fight against Abraham. I certainly agree that Dirrell winning makes the fight with Ward more intriguing especially if Ward loses against Green because they'll be fighting for a spot in the next round, but I, like you, am a big boxing fan. The truth is Abraham is a bigger figure in boxing on a global scale than Dirrell is by a long shot. Abraham is a growing commodity after his destruction of Miranda and Taylor on American television. Moreover, the crowd will be predominantly Armenian, pro-Abraham crowd because Darchinyan is fighting on the same card and it is only an hour away from the biggest population of Armenians outside of Yerevan. Add to all this that Dirrell has almost no fan base at all and I think a credible argument exists that it is in Showtime's interest for Abraham to continue to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
As to the fight itself, Abraham presents Dirrell with the toughest challenge of his career by far. Dirrell lost to Froch, but Froch won that fight because of experience and heart. Dirrell lost that fight as much as Froch won.
When Froch fought Taylor, he was down on points going into the 8th round. Whereas, when Abraham fought Taylor, Abraham was winning that one from the first round on. Not that Abraham won every round, but it was clear he was beating Taylor.
Dirrell has the height and reach advantages. Abraham is the tougher, smarter fighter. Like in almost every Abraham fight, the question really is can Dirrell withstand the Abraham onslaught in the later rounds and can he stay away from Abraham's power? Difficult questions to answer.
That's some good research you've done there.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratI disagree. Ward-Dirrell was never a big fight; it is probably the smallest money fight of every possible match-up in the Super Six and this is the case whether or not Dirrell wins his fight against Abraham. I certainly agree that Dirrell winning makes the fight with Ward more intriguing especially if Ward loses against Green because they'll be fighting for a spot in the next round, but I, like you, am a big boxing fan. The truth is Abraham is a bigger figure in boxing on a global scale than Dirrell is by a long shot. Abraham is a growing commodity after his destruction of Miranda and Taylor on American television. Moreover, the crowd will be predominantly Armenian, pro-Abraham crowd because Darchinyan is fighting on the same card and it is only an hour away from the biggest population of Armenians outside of Yerevan. Add to all this that Dirrell has almost no fan base at all and I think a credible argument exists that it is in Showtime's interest for Abraham to continue to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Vic is arguably top of the bill. And he's obviously no big star. How many seats does this joint have? I bet it's not more than 2500.
Dirrell is beyond a nobody. He makes Frochy look like Floyd.
Is the fight in L.A?
Agua Caliente Casino, Rancho Mirage, California.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimboogie
I'm still undecided on this one. I think Dirrell will run all night again and get a decision but I might just go for an Abraham KO even though I don't think he'll get near him. I expect to spend twelve frustrating rounds hoping for Abraham to catch him.
I didn't do any research. Growing up in LA, you can't help but know that there is a big Armenian population in Glendale and they come out to support Darchinyan. Abraham isn't as well-known. It is a small venue. Good for this event. I bet it will be a fun card to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterThat's some good research you've done there.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratI disagree. Ward-Dirrell was never a big fight; it is probably the smallest money fight of every possible match-up in the Super Six and this is the case whether or not Dirrell wins his fight against Abraham. I certainly agree that Dirrell winning makes the fight with Ward more intriguing especially if Ward loses against Green because they'll be fighting for a spot in the next round, but I, like you, am a big boxing fan. The truth is Abraham is a bigger figure in boxing on a global scale than Dirrell is by a long shot. Abraham is a growing commodity after his destruction of Miranda and Taylor on American television. Moreover, the crowd will be predominantly Armenian, pro-Abraham crowd because Darchinyan is fighting on the same card and it is only an hour away from the biggest population of Armenians outside of Yerevan. Add to all this that Dirrell has almost no fan base at all and I think a credible argument exists that it is in Showtime's interest for Abraham to continue to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Vic is arguably top of the bill. And he's obviously no big star. How many seats does this joint have? I bet it's not more than 2500.
Dirrell is beyond a nobody. He makes Frochy look like Floyd.
You forgot to respond to my opinion that it is as much in Showtime's interest for Abraham to win as Dirrell because of his growing fan base. Couple that with the fact that the crowd will be pro-Abraham, he has just as good of a chance at getting the decision as Dirrell.
You need to lighten up man.. the "research" comment wasn't an insult, i was giving you credit for pointing out it was a strongly populated Armenian area - hence Vic on the bill and the obvious connection to AA.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratI didn't do any research. Growing up in LA, you can't help but know that there is a big Armenian population in Glendale and they come out to support Darchinyan. Abraham isn't as well-known. It is a small venue. Good for this event. I bet it will be a fun card to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterThat's some good research you've done there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
Vic is arguably top of the bill. And he's obviously no big star. How many seats does this joint have? I bet it's not more than 2500.
Dirrell is beyond a nobody. He makes Frochy look like Floyd.
You forgot to respond to my opinion that it is as much in Showtime's interest for Abraham to win as Dirrell because of his growing fan base. Couple that with the fact that the crowd will be pro-Abraham, he has just as good of a chance at getting the decision as Dirrell.
And to make things clear.. My comments about "Showtime bias" or "hometown decisions" are purely tongue-in-cheek. A backlash against all the fools that claim all promotions, officials, judges and Refs outside of America are incompetent/corrupt. That cry robbery everytime a close fight goes against them. ;)