Sports Illustrated should stick to mainsteam sports and stay the hell out of boxing!
Typical SI. A recent article covering the Pacquiao-Clottey fight spends more than 90% of its one-page coverage talking about the need for a Pac-PBF fight. It talks about how boxing needs this fight... otherwise fans will continue to gravitate from boxing toward "real" and exciting sports, like MMA. It talks about how Manny and Floyd need to face each other... otherwise both of their careers will have some sort of "giant asterisk" next to their names. It talks about Floyd like he's actually accomplished something worthwhile in the 147-pound division, to warrant a shot at Pacquiao.
You can tell the SI boxing writers are nothing but part of that huge casual fan base, that couldn't name 5 old time world-class boxers if their life depended on it. The article talks about the "instant gratification" attitude of most fans nowadays, and yet the author ironically has "instant gratification" syndrome coming out of his pores.
These short-sighted articles do nothing to advance the cause of boxing wih the casual fans. All it does is perpetuate the myths that most of these casual fans have. I miss the old time writers, the ones that used to cover the Ali-Frazier fights, or the fights from the golden 1980's.
Again... just because Floyd is the U.S.'s only candidate for the mythical title of p4p, it doesn't justify continuing to carry the torch for a guy that has fought once in the last couple of years, and THAT fight was a hand-picked, gross size mismatch against a willing, but totally overwhelmed opponent. Floyd gave up his right to brag about anything a long time ago. He should have stayed at 135 or 140, where he can truly be a force. Pacquiao doesn't NEED Floyd. Floyd NEEDS Pacquiao. Manny has continued fighting, defying the odds, and beating fighters that no one have him a shot of defeating. He comes to fight... he's exciting to watch... and he has remained humble throughout. My kinda guy.
But back to SI... either hire competent, knowledgeable boxing writers to do the sport justice... or stay out of boxing altogether and stick with the NFL, NBA, MLB, and those other sports you cover so well.
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Is it by Chris Mannix? That guy doesn't know shit about boxing.
Boxing is dying blah blah blah. MMA is rising blah blah blah. Aside from the US and Brazil is MMA that popular? Well we all know the answer to that.
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generalbulldog
Is it by Chris Mannix? That guy doesn't know shit about boxing.
Boxing is dying blah blah blah. MMA is rising blah blah blah. Aside from the US and Brazil is MMA that popular? Well we all know the answer to that.
Yep... that's the guy. They should start him off easy, like maybe an assignment covering the next World Curling Championships, before they let him anywhere near a boxing ring with a laptop in his hands.
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Boxing death is like the end of the world, they postponed its happening every year.
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TitoFan
Typical SI. A recent article covering the Pacquiao-Clottey fight spends more than 90% of its one-page coverage talking about the need for a Pac-PBF fight. It talks about how boxing needs this fight... otherwise fans will continue to gravitate from boxing toward "real" and exciting sports, like MMA. It talks about how Manny and Floyd need to face each other... otherwise both of their careers will have some sort of "giant asterisk" next to their names. It talks about Floyd like he's actually accomplished something worthwhile in the 147-pound division, to warrant a shot at Pacquiao.
You can tell the SI boxing writers are nothing but part of that huge casual fan base, that couldn't name 5 old time world-class boxers if their life depended on it. The article talks about the "instant gratification" attitude of most fans nowadays, and yet the author ironically has "instant gratification" syndrome coming out of his pores.
These short-sighted articles do nothing to advance the cause of boxing wih the casual fans. All it does is perpetuate the myths that most of these casual fans have. I miss the old time writers, the ones that used to cover the Ali-Frazier fights, or the fights from the golden 1980's.
Again... just because Floyd is the U.S.'s only candidate for the mythical title of p4p, it doesn't justify continuing to carry the torch for a guy that has fought once in the last couple of years, and THAT fight was a hand-picked, gross size mismatch against a willing, but totally overwhelmed opponent. Floyd gave up his right to brag about anything a long time ago. He should have stayed at 135 or 140, where he can truly be a force. Pacquiao doesn't NEED Floyd. Floyd NEEDS Pacquiao. Manny has continued fighting, defying the odds, and beating fighters that no one have him a shot of defeating. He comes to fight... he's exciting to watch... and he has remained humble throughout. My kinda guy.
But back to SI... either hire competent, knowledgeable boxing writers to do the sport justice... or stay out of boxing altogether and stick with the NFL, NBA, MLB, and those other sports you cover so well.
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I am prepared to answer the call!!!!!!!!!
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You can just see a "fight writer's" lack of knowlege when they compare sports like MMA and Boxing. People try to drag me into that trap all the time. I get sick of calling it apples and oranges. The sport is not dying, it just evolves.
They just packed a giant stadium with 51k in the US where boxing is supposed to be all but on life support.
The evolution of boxing as it is at current, favors the smaller men, as they've been carrying the sport for a while now as the HWs seem to become more sloppy and less athletic due to other sports grabbing them... But evolution is not a bad thing.
Truth be told, Floyd's mouth and Manny's brilliance are great for boxing but the sport would go on even if neither existed.
What people like this tool should stick to are things that they know. I'm not writing papers on quantum physics cuz I know nothing about it. On second thought...... Who has a pen?
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TitoFan
Typical SI. A recent article covering the Pacquiao-Clottey fight spends more than 90% of its one-page coverage talking about the need for a Pac-PBF fight. It talks about how boxing needs this fight... otherwise fans will continue to gravitate from boxing toward "real" and exciting sports, like MMA. It talks about how Manny and Floyd need to face each other... otherwise both of their careers will have some sort of "giant asterisk" next to their names. It talks about Floyd like he's actually accomplished something worthwhile in the 147-pound division, to warrant a shot at Pacquiao.
You can tell the SI boxing writers are nothing but part of that huge casual fan base, that couldn't name 5 old time world-class boxers if their life depended on it. The article talks about the "instant gratification" attitude of most fans nowadays, and yet the author ironically has "instant gratification" syndrome coming out of his pores.
These short-sighted articles do nothing to advance the cause of boxing wih the casual fans. All it does is perpetuate the myths that most of these casual fans have. I miss the old time writers, the ones that used to cover the Ali-Frazier fights, or the fights from the golden 1980's.
Again... just because Floyd is the U.S.'s only candidate for the mythical title of p4p, it doesn't justify continuing to carry the torch for a guy that has fought once in the last couple of years, and THAT fight was a hand-picked, gross size mismatch against a willing, but totally overwhelmed opponent. Floyd gave up his right to brag about anything a long time ago. He should have stayed at 135 or 140, where he can truly be a force. Pacquiao doesn't NEED Floyd. Floyd NEEDS Pacquiao. Manny has continued fighting, defying the odds, and beating fighters that no one have him a shot of defeating. He comes to fight... he's exciting to watch... and he has remained humble throughout. My kinda guy.
But back to SI... either hire competent, knowledgeable boxing writers to do the sport justice... or stay out of boxing altogether and stick with the NFL, NBA, MLB, and those other sports you cover so well.
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I haven't read the article, but what you are saying about Floyd is bullshit. He has accomplished way more Felix Trinidad ever did in his career and is a way better fighter. When Mayweather went to welterweight he beat the top guys in the division(Mosley was 154 and Cotto had just started campaigning at 147, and Margarito was/still is a joke).
Mayweather is facing the top welterweight in the world, Floyd is the best welterweight in the world, almost everyone in boxing believes he will have the upper hand on Manny because he is the superior boxer. It's just as that saying goes "Offense gets the glory, defense wins the game". Floyd is the most popular fighter in the world, and he's the best fighter in the world. The guy he beat who was oversized was the second best fighter in the world at the time. FLoyd didn't use his size to muscle Marquez around, and he was off for 18months. Apparently none of that matters though. Also his fighter with Mosley the next best guy after Pacquiao isn't good enough for you either.
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Taeth
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TitoFan
Typical SI. A recent article covering the Pacquiao-Clottey fight spends more than 90% of its one-page coverage talking about the need for a Pac-PBF fight. It talks about how boxing needs this fight... otherwise fans will continue to gravitate from boxing toward "real" and exciting sports, like MMA. It talks about how Manny and Floyd need to face each other... otherwise both of their careers will have some sort of "giant asterisk" next to their names. It talks about Floyd like he's actually accomplished something worthwhile in the 147-pound division, to warrant a shot at Pacquiao.
You can tell the SI boxing writers are nothing but part of that huge casual fan base, that couldn't name 5 old time world-class boxers if their life depended on it. The article talks about the "instant gratification" attitude of most fans nowadays, and yet the author ironically has "instant gratification" syndrome coming out of his pores.
These short-sighted articles do nothing to advance the cause of boxing wih the casual fans. All it does is perpetuate the myths that most of these casual fans have. I miss the old time writers, the ones that used to cover the Ali-Frazier fights, or the fights from the golden 1980's.
Again... just because Floyd is the U.S.'s only candidate for the mythical title of p4p, it doesn't justify continuing to carry the torch for a guy that has fought once in the last couple of years, and THAT fight was a hand-picked, gross size mismatch against a willing, but totally overwhelmed opponent. Floyd gave up his right to brag about anything a long time ago. He should have stayed at 135 or 140, where he can truly be a force. Pacquiao doesn't NEED Floyd. Floyd NEEDS Pacquiao. Manny has continued fighting, defying the odds, and beating fighters that no one have him a shot of defeating. He comes to fight... he's exciting to watch... and he has remained humble throughout. My kinda guy.
But back to SI... either hire competent, knowledgeable boxing writers to do the sport justice... or stay out of boxing altogether and stick with the NFL, NBA, MLB, and those other sports you cover so well.
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I haven't read the article, but what you are saying about Floyd is bullshit. He has accomplished way more Felix Trinidad ever did in his career and is a way better fighter. When Mayweather went to welterweight he beat the top guys in the division(Mosley was 154 and Cotto had just started campaigning at 147, and Margarito was/still is a joke).
Mayweather is facing the top welterweight in the world, Floyd is the best welterweight in the world, almost everyone in boxing believes he will have the upper hand on Manny because he is the superior boxer. It's just as that saying goes
"Offense gets the glory, defense wins the game". Floyd is the most popular fighter in the world, and he's the best fighter in the world. The guy he beat who was oversized was the second best fighter in the world at the time. FLoyd didn't use his size to muscle Marquez around, and he was off for 18months. Apparently none of that matters though. Also his fighter with Mosley the next best guy after Pacquiao isn't good enough for you either.
That's more true in team sports. But in boxing anything can happen. And defense does not always win, see SRR vs Willie Pep, even thought that was in the amateurs, SRR easily bested him, the so called greatest defensive fighter who won a round without throwing a punch.
Floyd is well known especially in America and probably parts of Europe like the UK, but how about in Asia? Pac is the most well known fighter on that continent, not just in his homeland, that's not up for dispute and he is well known now in the West. In a western sense of being popular the edge goes to Floyd, in a worldwide sense I go with Pac.
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I too read the article this morning and really thought nothing about it. Until now when I really thought about it. IT is a joke but it is just the norm for ESPN to rip boxing apart. As POB said 51,000 to see a dying sport?
On another note I seen on Rome is burning these three retards Rome included ripping boxing and the Pacquiao Clottey fight.Saying the same shit "boxing needs the PAC PBF fight or boxing is done for" in so many words. Bullshit I think it is absolutely amazing how so many ESPN analysts rip the sport of boxing and do nothing to promote these championship fights unless it is multi-million dollar fights. The fact is ESPN know's nothing about boxing except what they are told through Dan Rafael.
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Doomsayers are typically the most listened to and also the first ones up on the rack.
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Taeth
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TitoFan
Typical SI. A recent article covering the Pacquiao-Clottey fight spends more than 90% of its one-page coverage talking about the need for a Pac-PBF fight. It talks about how boxing needs this fight... otherwise fans will continue to gravitate from boxing toward "real" and exciting sports, like MMA. It talks about how Manny and Floyd need to face each other... otherwise both of their careers will have some sort of "giant asterisk" next to their names. It talks about Floyd like he's actually accomplished something worthwhile in the 147-pound division, to warrant a shot at Pacquiao.
You can tell the SI boxing writers are nothing but part of that huge casual fan base, that couldn't name 5 old time world-class boxers if their life depended on it. The article talks about the "instant gratification" attitude of most fans nowadays, and yet the author ironically has "instant gratification" syndrome coming out of his pores.
These short-sighted articles do nothing to advance the cause of boxing wih the casual fans. All it does is perpetuate the myths that most of these casual fans have. I miss the old time writers, the ones that used to cover the Ali-Frazier fights, or the fights from the golden 1980's.
Again... just because Floyd is the U.S.'s only candidate for the mythical title of p4p, it doesn't justify continuing to carry the torch for a guy that has fought once in the last couple of years, and THAT fight was a hand-picked, gross size mismatch against a willing, but totally overwhelmed opponent. Floyd gave up his right to brag about anything a long time ago. He should have stayed at 135 or 140, where he can truly be a force. Pacquiao doesn't NEED Floyd. Floyd NEEDS Pacquiao. Manny has continued fighting, defying the odds, and beating fighters that no one have him a shot of defeating. He comes to fight... he's exciting to watch... and he has remained humble throughout. My kinda guy.
But back to SI... either hire competent, knowledgeable boxing writers to do the sport justice... or stay out of boxing altogether and stick with the NFL, NBA, MLB, and those other sports you cover so well.
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I haven't read the article, but what you are saying about Floyd is bullshit. He has accomplished way more Felix Trinidad ever did in his career and is a way better fighter. When Mayweather went to welterweight he beat the top guys in the division(Mosley was 154 and Cotto had just started campaigning at 147, and Margarito was/still is a joke).
Mayweather is facing the top welterweight in the world, Floyd is the best welterweight in the world, almost everyone in boxing believes he will have the upper hand on Manny because he is the superior boxer. It's just as that saying goes "Offense gets the glory, defense wins the game". Floyd is the most popular fighter in the world, and he's the best fighter in the world. The guy he beat who was oversized was the second best fighter in the world at the time. FLoyd didn't use his size to muscle Marquez around, and he was off for 18months. Apparently none of that matters though. Also his fighter with Mosley the next best guy after Pacquiao isn't good enough for you either.
After several years in the forum, I've learned whose posts to take seriously, but for some strange reason I still read yours anyway. You're as predictable as you are ignorant. Anyway, I stopped reading after your comparison of Floyd with Trinidad. You've got your head up so far into Floyd's ass... you can't write a halfway intelligent post.
Never mind that I gave Floyd all sorts of props at the other divisions. Your ignorant ass insists on calling Floyd an accomplished welterweight. But that's ok. After Mosley rips Floyd a new asshole in their upcoming fight, we'll talk again.
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So should Ring Magazine.
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About Sports Illustrated, I remember reading this article on Dmitry Salita that he didn't get the big fights at 140 because he was white and Jewish.
This was a year ago when Hatton and Pacquiao were set to fight. And said Hatton should have gave a fight to him.
Dmitriy Salita deserves shot at WBA junior welterweight title - Jeff Pearlman - SI.com
No, Salita didn't get a fight with Hatton or any star at 140 is because he's a shit fighter that beat up mostly tomato cans, and they kept on bringing up his undefeated record, like that means anything.
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It's funny how people feel they need to shit on pac to like floyd or visa versa, both guys are great fighters and saying anything else is just plain silly. Yea floyd hasn't done shit yet he and manny have pretty much fought and beat the same people. Before floyd fights all these guys everyone is hyped when they think he has a chance to loose yet after his opponets aren't shit and he doesn't fight anyone. If he'd not fought hatton most would cry cause he ducked him, if he didn't fight oscar same thing so on and so forth. You can use the same posts and articles for every guy floyd fights and just change the name it's always the same tired stuff till he beats the current so called guy. He could fight pac tonight and if he won it would be he's was too small, pac was tired, distracted, runnin for office blah blah. Look i don't know who'd win that fight and i really don't care anymore. I've said it before i wish both of them and thier fans would go away. But if i was forced to bet my house on one of them. I'd pick floyd. If clottey can throw three punches in a whole fight and have most of them land and leave pac's face the way he did, floyd sure as shit will. Why can't both be congradulated for what they've done. If you switched the records for both guys these same fans would be running around town braggin about pac's undefeated resume like he created the damn sport. i love being a boxing fan and not a fan of a particular guy so i don't get caught up in this foolishness...and on a side note yes it's entirely possible floyd or anyone else could beat floyd in this game of inches.......he just wouldn't. Screw em both
