I am F**KING ashamed of some people here and their Valero comments!!!!

I have to say I really thought better of some people here due to the way they have posted over time...Seemed like decent people....(As decent of an opinion you can get of someone over the internet I guess)..

This whole Valero thing is a tragedy....First it is sad that a professional fighter killed his wife...A mother of children,,,the Daughter of 2 hard working people...A sister...

I mean MAN that is some tragic tragic shit....

There is NO excuse for what happened..NONE I mean Alcohol played a big part in this and possibly other things unknown to us..

There is no forgiving Valero for what he did...But to add to the tragedy this man hung himself...He obviously knew what he did was wrong...He obviously had remorse to the point he could not bear....

These kids have not only lost a Mother murdered by their Father but they will now have to live with the fact their Father committed suicide......

There is NOTHING GOOD ABOUT THIS AND NO JUSTICE CAME FROM VALEROS DEATH!!!! NO ONE IS RELIEVED IN HIS FAMILY I AM SURE OR HIS WIFES BY WHAT HE DID TO HIMSELF....

I mean shit regardless of what happened this man is ALSO someones son...Someones Father.....

I read shit on the other threads about...Hope he kills himself...Good he killed himself...

The we have ASSHOLES MAKING JOKES LIKE

"Valero murders next opponent, then chokes under pressure."

WHAT A FUCKING SCUMBAG!!!!!

YOU ARE AS BAD IF NOT WORSE THEN VALERO BECAUSE YOU FIND HUMOR IN THIS!!!! WHAT IS SO FUCKING FUNNY!!!!!! IF YOU WERE IN FRONT OF ME I WOULD CHOKE YOU!!!!!

I am not going to call anyoner out and mention their names on the LOW CLASS comments made by them...they know who they are and anyone can look for the post themselves if they are that curious but FUCK man..

I fail to see the humor in 2 people dead one murdered the other by their own hand leaving families to suffer the not only loss of them but the indignities of this being publicized world wide....

It is a sad sad day not for boxing but in general....

But that is FUNNY!!!!....It was Cool and tough to post shit like I hope he dies etc......

I hope this never happens to one of you FUCK HEADS...And if GOD FORBID you do have to endure some tragedy like this..BECAUSE I WOULD WISH THIS ON NO ONE!!!!!!! I hope you never have to read comments like these...hear comments like these or be publicly humiliated the way these people are right now....

AND IF the person was that bad to the point they deserve no sympathy not for what they did but just for being human beings..One who was obviously tormented by demons through addiction or maybe some sort of mental disability (we don't know) I would at least feel a bit of empathy for the families and not use this as a way to amuse myself or try to be the forum joker hoping for some rep for my scumbag of a joke!!!


This type of behavior is something reserved for child molesters and murderers or children
I feel bad for your families!!!

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

I have to say I really thought better of some people here due to the way they have posted over time...Seemed like decent people....(As decent of an opinion you can get of someone over the internet I guess)..

This whole Valero thing is a tragedy....First it is sad that a professional fighter killed his wife...A mother of children,,,the Daughter of 2 hard working people...A sister...

I mean MAN that is some tragic tragic shit....

There is NO excuse for what happened..NONE I mean Alcohol played a big part in this and possibly other things unknown to us..

There is no forgiving Valero for what he did...But to add to the tragedy this man hung himself...He obviously knew what he did was wrong...He obviously had remorse to the point he could not bear....

These kids have not only lost a Mother murdered by their Father but they will now have to live with the fact their Father committed suicide......

There is NOTHING GOOD ABOUT THIS AND NO JUSTICE CAME FROM VALEROS DEATH!!!! NO ONE IS RELIEVED IN HIS FAMILY I AM SURE OR HIS WIFES BY WHAT HE DID TO HIMSELF....

I mean shit regardless of what happened this man is ALSO someones son...Someones Father.....

I read shit on the other threads about...Hope he kills himself...Good he killed himself...

The we have ASSHOLES MAKING JOKES LIKE

"Valero murders next opponent, then chokes under pressure."

WHAT A FUCKING SCUMBAG!!!!!

YOU ARE AS BAD IF NOT WORSE THEN VALERO BECAUSE YOU FIND HUMOR IN THIS!!!! WHAT IS SO FUCKING FUNNY!!!!!! IF YOU WERE IN FRONT OF ME I WOULD CHOKE YOU!!!!!

I am not going to call anyoner out and mention their names on the LOW CLASS comments made by them...they know who they are and anyone can look for the post themselves if they are that curious by FUCK man..

I fail to see the humor in 2 people dead one murdered the other by their own hand leaving families to suffer the not only loss of them but the indignities of this being publicized world wide....

It is a sad sad day not for boxing but in general....

But that is FUNNY!!!!....It was Cool and tough to post shit like I hope he dies etc......

I hope this never happens to one of you FUCK HEADS...And if GOD FORBID you do have to endure some tragedy like this..BECAUSE I WOULD WISH THIS ON NO ONE!!!!!!!

AND IF the person was that bad I would at least feel a bit of empathy for the families and not use this as a way to amuse myself or try to be the forum joker hoping for some rep for my scumbag of a joke!!!

I feel bad for your families!!!

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I felt the same way. It was a tragedy for all involved. No one but Valero and his wife knew what went on. All of it is just some speculation.

I think someone mentioned it, but it's almost like an modern tale of Monzon. Just tragic stuff.

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

I have to say I really thought better of some people here due to the way they have posted over time...Seemed like decent people....(As decent of an opinion you can get of someone over the internet I guess)..

This whole Valero thing is a tragedy....First it is sad that a professional fighter killed his wife...A mother of children,,,the Daughter of 2 hard working people...A sister...

I mean MAN that is some tragic tragic shit....

There is NO excuse for what happened..NONE I mean Alcohol played a big part in this and possibly other things unknown to us..

There is no forgiving Valero for what he did...But to add to the tragedy this man hung himself...He obviously knew what he did was wrong...He obviously had remorse to the point he could not bear....

These kids have not only lost a Mother murdered by their Father but they will now have to live with the fact their Father committed suicide......

There is NOTHING GOOD ABOUT THIS AND NO JUSTICE CAME FROM VALEROS DEATH!!!! NO ONE IS RELIEVED IN HIS FAMILY I AM SURE OR HIS WIFES BY WHAT HE DID TO HIMSELF....

I mean shit regardless of what happened this man is ALSO someones son...Someones Father.....

I read shit on the other threads about...Hope he kills himself...Good he killed himself...

The we have ASSHOLES MAKING JOKES LIKE

"Valero murders next opponent, then chokes under pressure."

WHAT A FUCKING SCUMBAG!!!!!

YOU ARE AS BAD IF NOT WORSE THEN VALERO BECAUSE YOU FIND HUMOR IN THIS!!!! WHAT IS SO FUCKING FUNNY!!!!!! IF YOU WERE IN FRONT OF ME I WOULD CHOKE YOU!!!!!

I am not going to call anyoner out and mention their names on the LOW CLASS comments made by them...they know who they are and anyone can look for the post themselves if they are that curious by FUCK man..

I fail to see the humor in 2 people dead one murdered the other by their own hand leaving families to suffer the not only loss of them but the indignities of this being publicized world wide....

It is a sad sad day not for boxing but in general....

But that is FUNNY!!!!....It was Cool and tough to post shit like I hope he dies etc......

I hope this never happens to one of you FUCK HEADS...And if GOD FORBID you do have to endure some tragedy like this..BECAUSE I WOULD WISH THIS ON NO ONE!!!!!!!

AND IF the person was that bad I would at least feel a bit of empathy for the families and not use this as a way to amuse myself or try to be the forum joker hoping for some rep for my scumbag of a joke!!!

I feel bad for your families!!!

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:lol: You're a serious guy Daxx.

I mean I would disagree that finding humor in this makes you as bad or worse than someone who KILLED HIS WIFE. I get the concept of exaggerating to make a point but yeah, KILLING YOUR WIFE is worse than making tasteless jokes IMO. To each his own I guess.

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

I have to say I really thought better of some people here due to the way they have posted over time...Seemed like decent people....(As decent of an opinion you can get of someone over the internet I guess)..

This whole Valero thing is a tragedy....First it is sad that a professional fighter killed his wife...A mother of children,,,the Daughter of 2 hard working people...A sister...

I mean MAN that is some tragic tragic shit....

There is NO excuse for what happened..NONE I mean Alcohol played a big part in this and possibly other things unknown to us..

There is no forgiving Valero for what he did...But to add to the tragedy this man hung himself...He obviously knew what he did was wrong...He obviously had remorse to the point he could not bear....

These kids have not only lost a Mother murdered by their Father but they will now have to live with the fact their Father committed suicide......

There is NOTHING GOOD ABOUT THIS AND NO JUSTICE CAME FROM VALEROS DEATH!!!! NO ONE IS RELIEVED IN HIS FAMILY I AM SURE OR HIS WIFES BY WHAT HE DID TO HIMSELF....

I mean shit regardless of what happened this man is ALSO someones son...Someones Father.....

I read shit on the other threads about...Hope he kills himself...Good he killed himself...

The we have ASSHOLES MAKING JOKES LIKE

"Valero murders next opponent, then chokes under pressure."

WHAT A FUCKING SCUMBAG!!!!!

YOU ARE AS BAD IF NOT WORSE THEN VALERO BECAUSE YOU FIND HUMOR IN THIS!!!! WHAT IS SO FUCKING FUNNY!!!!!! IF YOU WERE IN FRONT OF ME I WOULD CHOKE YOU!!!!!

I am not going to call anyoner out and mention their names on the LOW CLASS comments made by them...they know who they are and anyone can look for the post themselves if they are that curious by FUCK man..

I fail to see the humor in 2 people dead one murdered the other by their own hand leaving families to suffer the not only loss of them but the indignities of this being publicized world wide....

It is a sad sad day not for boxing but in general....

But that is FUNNY!!!!....It was Cool and tough to post shit like I hope he dies etc......

I hope this never happens to one of you FUCK HEADS...And if GOD FORBID you do have to endure some tragedy like this..BECAUSE I WOULD WISH THIS ON NO ONE!!!!!!!

AND IF the person was that bad I would at least feel a bit of empathy for the families and not use this as a way to amuse myself or try to be the forum joker hoping for some rep for my scumbag of a joke!!!

I feel bad for your families!!!

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:lol: You're a serious guy Daxx.

I mean I would disagree that finding humor in this makes you as bad or worse than someone who KILLED HIS WIFE. I get the concept of exaggerating to make a point but yeah, KILLING YOUR WIFE is worse than making tasteless jokes IMO. To each his own I guess.

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i said it yesterday, it's not far off, don't see how anyone can find anything humorous about the situation

Not far off from murder? I haven't made any jokes about all this personally and don't plan to but I think murder is worse than tasteless jokes personally.

I didn't make a joke about it but I was in the thread and I also said he deserved to die; I stand by that comment he was a coward who took the cowards way out. He had been beating his wife for a while so I can't have any empathy for this scumbag; if this was just a sudden breakdown and murder maybe I could feel sympathy for some who lost their mind. But Valero was arrested for assaulting his mother, sister and then his wife before deciding to stab her to death.

He then killed himself like the coward he is. I certainly hope he rots in hell for all that he has done.

Like I said in the other thread...

I enjoyed him as a fighter but he showed in the end he was troubled.

I also stated that him offing himself was probably for the best cuz he wasn't getting better after his rehab stints and had demons he couldn't deal with. Maybe not the best choice of words but to be honest... That's how I feel and it's a forum of oppinions after all.

I said I felt for the family and his wifes for she was a mother and daughter... I felt for the children.

But you won't see and "R.I.P. Valero" comments from me.

None... Not for a murderer or a person who commited suicide after doing so.

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

I have to say I really thought better of some people here due to the way they have posted over time...Seemed like decent people....(As decent of an opinion you can get of someone over the internet I guess)..

This whole Valero thing is a tragedy....First it is sad that a professional fighter killed his wife...A mother of children,,,the Daughter of 2 hard working people...A sister...

I mean MAN that is some tragic tragic shit....

There is NO excuse for what happened..NONE I mean Alcohol played a big part in this and possibly other things unknown to us..

There is no forgiving Valero for what he did...But to add to the tragedy this man hung himself...He obviously knew what he did was wrong...He obviously had remorse to the point he could not bear....

These kids have not only lost a Mother murdered by their Father but they will now have to live with the fact their Father committed suicide......

There is NOTHING GOOD ABOUT THIS AND NO JUSTICE CAME FROM VALEROS DEATH!!!! NO ONE IS RELIEVED IN HIS FAMILY I AM SURE OR HIS WIFES BY WHAT HE DID TO HIMSELF....

I mean shit regardless of what happened this man is ALSO someones son...Someones Father.....

I read shit on the other threads about...Hope he kills himself...Good he killed himself...

The we have ASSHOLES MAKING JOKES LIKE

"Valero murders next opponent, then chokes under pressure."

WHAT A FUCKING SCUMBAG!!!!!

YOU ARE AS BAD IF NOT WORSE THEN VALERO BECAUSE YOU FIND HUMOR IN THIS!!!! WHAT IS SO FUCKING FUNNY!!!!!! IF YOU WERE IN FRONT OF ME I WOULD CHOKE YOU!!!!!

I am not going to call anyoner out and mention their names on the LOW CLASS comments made by them...they know who they are and anyone can look for the post themselves if they are that curious by FUCK man..

I fail to see the humor in 2 people dead one murdered the other by their own hand leaving families to suffer the not only loss of them but the indignities of this being publicized world wide....

It is a sad sad day not for boxing but in general....

But that is FUNNY!!!!....It was Cool and tough to post shit like I hope he dies etc......

I hope this never happens to one of you FUCK HEADS...And if GOD FORBID you do have to endure some tragedy like this..BECAUSE I WOULD WISH THIS ON NO ONE!!!!!!!

AND IF the person was that bad I would at least feel a bit of empathy for the families and not use this as a way to amuse myself or try to be the forum joker hoping for some rep for my scumbag of a joke!!!

I feel bad for your families!!!

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:lol: You're a serious guy Daxx.

I mean I would disagree that finding humor in this makes you as bad or worse than someone who KILLED HIS WIFE. I get the concept of exaggerating to make a point but yeah, KILLING YOUR WIFE is worse than making tasteless jokes IMO. To each his own I guess.

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Your right I do find it just as bad...Because what type of person finds Humor in another's tragedy...

What if this was your family wise ass? Be a whole loot different huh? But because this is a guy who was famous this is open season...

Your the guy that laughs at an old lady who falls on the sidewalk right?

The fact you don't see how wrong it is say's what about you? The fact you put a :lol: under the post says what about you?

I don't expect everyone to think as harshly as I do but fact you see this as low class tells me low class is your thing

Edwin Valero's two children, who are 8 and 5 years old, are staying with their grandmother. They have now lost two parents within 48 hours, their father murdering their mother, and then taking his own life. That's something they'll have to try to understand and live with for the rest of their livesThose two children have entire lives to live. I send my heart felt sympathies to the children and families of Jennifer Carolina Viera and Edwin Valero. None of this is going to be easy for anybody who knew the couple. I can't even imagine being in the position they're in now. May the Lord comfort their souls.

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Edwin Valero's two children, who are 8 and 5 years old, are staying with their grandmother. They have now lost two parents within 48 hours, their father murdering their mother, and then taking his own life. That's something they'll have to try to understand and live with for the rest of their livesThose two children have entire lives to live. I send my heart felt sympathies to the children and families of Jennifer Carolina Viera and Edwin Valero. None of this is going to be easy for anybody who knew the couple. I can't even imagine being in the position they're in now. May the Lord comfort their souls.

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Indeed.

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

I have to say I really thought better of some people here due to the way they have posted over time...Seemed like decent people....(As decent of an opinion you can get of someone over the internet I guess)..

This whole Valero thing is a tragedy....First it is sad that a professional fighter killed his wife...A mother of children,,,the Daughter of 2 hard working people...A sister...

I mean MAN that is some tragic tragic shit....

There is NO excuse for what happened..NONE I mean Alcohol played a big part in this and possibly other things unknown to us..

There is no forgiving Valero for what he did...But to add to the tragedy this man hung himself...He obviously knew what he did was wrong...He obviously had remorse to the point he could not bear....

These kids have not only lost a Mother murdered by their Father but they will now have to live with the fact their Father committed suicide......

There is NOTHING GOOD ABOUT THIS AND NO JUSTICE CAME FROM VALEROS DEATH!!!! NO ONE IS RELIEVED IN HIS FAMILY I AM SURE OR HIS WIFES BY WHAT HE DID TO HIMSELF....

I mean shit regardless of what happened this man is ALSO someones son...Someones Father.....

I read shit on the other threads about...Hope he kills himself...Good he killed himself...

The we have ASSHOLES MAKING JOKES LIKE

"Valero murders next opponent, then chokes under pressure."

WHAT A FUCKING SCUMBAG!!!!!

YOU ARE AS BAD IF NOT WORSE THEN VALERO BECAUSE YOU FIND HUMOR IN THIS!!!! WHAT IS SO FUCKING FUNNY!!!!!! IF YOU WERE IN FRONT OF ME I WOULD CHOKE YOU!!!!!

I am not going to call anyoner out and mention their names on the LOW CLASS comments made by them...they know who they are and anyone can look for the post themselves if they are that curious by FUCK man..

I fail to see the humor in 2 people dead one murdered the other by their own hand leaving families to suffer the not only loss of them but the indignities of this being publicized world wide....

It is a sad sad day not for boxing but in general....

But that is FUNNY!!!!....It was Cool and tough to post shit like I hope he dies etc......

I hope this never happens to one of you FUCK HEADS...And if GOD FORBID you do have to endure some tragedy like this..BECAUSE I WOULD WISH THIS ON NO ONE!!!!!!!

AND IF the person was that bad I would at least feel a bit of empathy for the families and not use this as a way to amuse myself or try to be the forum joker hoping for some rep for my scumbag of a joke!!!

I feel bad for your families!!!

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:lol: You're a serious guy Daxx.

I mean I would disagree that finding humor in this makes you as bad or worse than someone who KILLED HIS WIFE. I get the concept of exaggerating to make a point but yeah, KILLING YOUR WIFE is worse than making tasteless jokes IMO. To each his own I guess.

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Your right I do find it just as bad...Because what type of person finds Humor in another's tragedy...

What if this was your family wise ass? Be a whole loot different huh? But because this is a guy who was famous this is open season...

Your the guy that laughs at an old lady who falls on the sidewalk right?

The fact you don't see how wrong it is say's what about you? The fact you put a :lol: under the post says what about you?

I don't expect everyone to think as harshly as I do but fact you see this as low class tells me low class is your thing

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What are you on about now Daxx? ;D Fucking hell you're a head case sometimes. I never once have laughed at the situation, made any jokes about it and I certainly don't laugh at old women who fall in the street.

I have no idea what this: "but fact you see this as low class tells me low class is your thing" even means.

I don't think making jokes is as bad as murder. Period. That doesn't mean I've made jokes about it. But rant on if it makes you feel better.

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Edwin Valero's two children, who are 8 and 5 years old, are staying with their grandmother. They have now lost two parents within 48 hours, their father murdering their mother, and then taking his own life. That's something they'll have to try to understand and live with for the rest of their livesThose two children have entire lives to live. I send my heart felt sympathies to the children and families of Jennifer Carolina Viera and Edwin Valero. None of this is going to be easy for anybody who knew the couple. I can't even imagine being in the position they're in now. May the Lord comfort their souls.

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The true victims of this are his wife and the kids, not boxing and not the scumbag valero.

I laughed at an old crackhead that fell in the street once after she told me to "go fuck myself" cuz I didn't give her change.

;D

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:lol: You're a serious guy Daxx.

I mean I would disagree that finding humor in this makes you as bad or worse than someone who KILLED HIS WIFE. I get the concept of exaggerating to make a point but yeah, KILLING YOUR WIFE is worse than making tasteless jokes IMO. To each his own I guess.

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Your right I do find it just as bad...Because what type of person finds Humor in another's tragedy...

What if this was your family wise ass? Be a whole loot different huh? But because this is a guy who was famous this is open season...

Your the guy that laughs at an old lady who falls on the sidewalk right?

The fact you don't see how wrong it is say's what about you? The fact you put a :lol: under the post says what about you?

I don't expect everyone to think as harshly as I do but fact you see this as low class tells me low class is your thing

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What are you on about now Daxx? ;D Fucking hell you're a head case sometimes. I never once have laughed at the situation, made any jokes about it and I certainly don't laugh at old women who fall in the street.

I have no idea what this: "but fact you see this as low class tells me low class is your thing" even means.

I don't think making jokes is as bad as murder. Period. That doesn't mean I've made jokes about it. But rant on if it makes you feel better.

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not necessarily you, but go into the other thread and you'll see plenty cracking tasteless jokes, fact is this has hit home to some of us, me included, and if someone can actually find humor in a tragedy like this well it doesn't really speak kindly about them at all

I do laugh at people who fall down, just not old ladies. Somebody my age who falls down in the street = good times.