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I don't think he was that hurt. In my opinion telling the doctors that he could continue while he is lying flat on his face is a bunch of BS. Its a way too look like the poor victim with heart that got screwd by the system. He felt he could have gone on, sure looked like it when he was punching the ambulance, he should have gotten up instead of lying on his face for 5 minutes like a faker, there was nothing wrong with him.
I agree he should have stood up if he wasn't seriously hurt.
I don't know why he would fake though.
He was winning the fight and not getting hurt in there or hit clean.
Perhaps, I didn't think the fall was that bad. I've seen far worse and boxers have got up fine. But just maybe something twisted and or bruised, just a case of wait and see. I was suspicious about it all though.
Who knows? I don't think he quit though, he was doing well up to that point. It didn't look like a serious fall, but he did land on the monitor and we won't know if he was seriously hurt for a while.
I agree that it didn't look like Cintron was severely hurt there, but he was in a sort of forward roll motion when his neck/back contacted the monitor, so it maybe that's why the doctors insisted on him getting checked out rather than going on. As a rugby fan, the neck injuries are the ones you have to be most careful with, what may at first may appear an innocuous knock can be much more serious.
However, the real disgrace out there tonight was the ring....that looked like an inflatable ring in there as there was no tension in the ropes whatsoever and the gap that Cintron went through was much much bigger than it should have been. With the proper tension in those ropes, we could have seen the action of the first 90 seconds of the fourth go much further and to a more satisfying end.
And the change of rules to give Williams a win instead of ruling it a NC....ridiculous.
He saw Williams turning up the pressure and was like f this I'm gonna dive out of the ring, this guys crazy. Seriously though lower back injury can complete stiffen up your entire back making it hard to move let alone box. If he was up and moving around and punching shit(I didnt see any of that) gotta make ya wonder if he just wanted to cash that check. Both fighters get paid....Quote:
Originally Posted by boxer dude
I don't know but since the Margarito fights I have considered him to be a bit soft, a great fighter no doubt, but a bit soft. This sure did not change my opinion of him.
no he wasn't up, but he was very vocal and he punched the ambulance when they were wheeling him in. Granted a back injury could really be seriouse but not to lay on the floor motion less for five minutes like his neck is broken. And if he was saying that he wanted to go on like Merchant said, then don't say it, get your ass up and show it.Quote:
Originally Posted by No ContestHe saw Williams turning up the pressure and was like f this I'm gonna dive out of the ring, this guys crazy. Seriously though lower back injury can complete stiffen up your entire back making it hard to move let alone box. If he was up and moving around and punching shit(I didnt see any of that) gotta make ya wonder if he just wanted to cash that check. Both fighters get paid....Quote:
Originally Posted by boxer dude
Wow. We fans can't seem to see real fight these days. It's too bad Kermit didn't force the issue to fight on. I think this definitely hurt his career regardless if he was Hurt or if was an act.
I once fell off my bed onto the carpet and bent my neck back a bit.
I thought I was going to die, the pain was agonising.
And for actor in a supporting role, the envelope please.
And our winner is....(drummmm rolllllllll)....
Kermit "I can cry on demand" Cintron!
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Can't fault the guy or the commision for being too careful, since none of us here took the fall we're forced to belive whatever he says
The cry-babyitch was fakin' it big time, and the ring doctor had no choice but to play it safe whether he believed Cintron or not.
Anyways, I thought it was a very competitive fight.
Why exactly would someone fake an injury so they could lose a fight on the cards? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
Of course he wasn't faking don't be ridiculous.
He got hurt and couldn't continue, and then got screwed over with a stupid points loss.
People hold the Martinez draw against him but he wasn't a judge, that wasn't his fault, and he did take that fight at only two weeks notice.
He came to win tonight, and was boxing well up to the unfortunate incident.
Some of you guys got it WRONG! and have too much BS to say.
Here is the problem. Cintron fell out of the ring over a table with equipment on it. He immediately reached to his back and neck area gesturing in pain. The ring side Doctor(s) saw it. (And possible heard Cintron complaining) Had they taken any other action other the one of precaution and Cintron ended up having further injuries as a result of a non-cautionary response, the ring Doctor would have been blamed. The Commission had no choice but to back the Doctor's orders completely. He obviously had some pain, and had people around him ordering him not to move. And it also looked like Cintron was saying he was ok and wanted to continue.