Manny Pacquiao sometimes we forget just how good he really is
just watched this it brought back some great memories and reminded me of some big debates ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXeIlFz7J2E
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No doubt, an atg. At least top 30 in boxing history and 1 of the greatest southpaws in the sport.
Hmmmm......where is hornfinger to derail this thread?
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I really need to watch Pac - JMM I.
Pacquiao is an amazing talent. He doesn't have as much skill as someone like Mayweather, but his desire to fight the best and his incredible tenacity makes him the best fighter of this generation.
Top 20 ATG without a doubt.
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I was not a believer until he smashed Cotto, I know, I was pretty late but he looked limited against JMM and thought the other fighters would be too big for him. Still think Floyd will beat him.
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I've never seen that vid. That one is well updated.
Good find El hefe!
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He definitely has some good skills, but Mayweather will show the world next year if he isn't thrown in jail for too long who the real top 10 p4p fighter of all time is, in this generation. He would maybe Cotto and Margarito look like fools in the right, same with CLottey. It's just too bad he will never get a chance. I actually think the better boxers have proven that Pacquiao's boxing ability isn't that good, I mean Cotto was outboxing him until he was worn out from damage, but who knows what would have happened with pre-Margarito Cotto. I don't think it took away from Cotto's speed and timing, but it did affect his power and chin.
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awesome vid.
and Taeth gonna Taeth, obv.
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He definitely has some good skills, but Mayweather will show the world next year if he isn't thrown in jail for too long who the real top 10 p4p fighter of all time is, in this generation. He would maybe Cotto and Margarito look like fools in the right, same with CLottey. It's just too bad he will never get a chance. I actually think the better boxers have proven that Pacquiao's boxing ability isn't that good, I mean Cotto was outboxing him until he was worn out from damage, but who knows what would have happened with pre-Margarito Cotto. I don't think it took away from Cotto's speed and timing, but it did affect his power and chin.
Floyd is a scared homosection. He'll never fight Manny.
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Taeth
He definitely has some good skills, but Mayweather will show the world next year if he isn't thrown in jail for too long who the real top 10 p4p fighter of all time is, in this generation. He would maybe Cotto and Margarito look like fools in the right, same with CLottey. It's just too bad he will never get a chance. I actually think the better boxers have proven that Pacquiao's boxing ability isn't that good, I mean Cotto was outboxing him until he was worn out from damage, but who knows what would have happened with pre-Margarito Cotto. I don't think it took away from Cotto's speed and timing, but it did affect his power and chin.
While I feel that Mayweather is the more talented fighter, Pacquiao is going to be remembered as the much better fighter because of his resume, his willingness to constantly take on new challenges, and his lack of general dumbfuckery.
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He definitely has some good skills, but Mayweather will show the world next year if he isn't thrown in jail for too long who the real top 10 p4p fighter of all time is, in this generation. He would maybe Cotto and Margarito look like fools in the right, same with CLottey. It's just too bad he will never get a chance. I actually think the better boxers have proven that Pacquiao's boxing ability isn't that good, I mean Cotto was outboxing him until he was worn out from damage, but who knows what would have happened with pre-Margarito Cotto. I don't think it took away from Cotto's speed and timing, but it did affect his power and chin.
Floyd is a scared homosection. He'll never fight Manny.
I wasn't going to quite say that but yeah you are right...Floyd had every opp to fight Manny...Floyd found every reason not to...Those who are too hung up on the Floyd wanting the sport to be clean and fair so that is why he wants the testing done when he says etc is looking blinded by Mayweather...
Floyd give nothing about Boxing he can care less if the sport crumbled tomorrow as long as he has made enough money to recoup his losses thus far....Floyd doesn't care about coming in overweight so he cares about PEDS? give me a break....
Mayweather has to be in control of things...he can not help it it is who he is....If Floyd cant get his way 100% if fucks up his mind psyche....he needs to feel like he is running the show and is pulling everyones strings...It amuses him and it makes him feel powerful...when not allowed to it mind fucks him...he feels like he has lost it....
Floyd could have fought Manny.....Many Many Many times over....,
Sorry but my family is broke, I lost my money to the govt, I have LEGAL ISSUES AS IS....I lost my sponsors.....I am on my way to jail....But that is all OK because I wont fight a guy who might use PEDS....Oh and by the way I am the one who started the rumor so now I am not even sure if I believe he is using...
The only reason the Mosley fight went off is because Shane had an issue in the past and since he has made great strides to make sure it would not happen again...Shane is a world caliber fighter who will fight anyone...Plus he is a top notch guy who knew that if he denied Floyd would try to start a smear campaign against him as well....Those rants are to make Floyd look like the good guy not to make Floyd the guy who wants a clean sport....
A woman beater, a thief, a man who steals from his own children's home, a man who hits his ex in front of or whole his children are present...A man who makes racist videos for youtu8be...a guy who grew up middle class all the way but pretends to be from the hard streets....A man who has not carefully picked out his opp since 2002 in the Castillo fight
This is the hero? This is the man who everyone should aspire to be like:o...,The sooner Floyd and his family are away from boxing the better...The only good Mayweather is a Jeff Mayweather...The rest are drug addicts, women beaters and bullshit artist....Not my opinion their public actions speak their descriptions as facts
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Crazy thing is as you watch the fights and the years progress he gets better and better each time out....There is no such thing as an "OK" performance from Manny Pacquiao...He is just going to go all out in the best style he can...Plus he has started to use defense...Man the longer Floyd waits to fight him the worse it gets for Floyd
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Awesome, awesome fighter. The fight with Mayweather just has to happen. If not it will be the greatest fight not to happen in boxing IMO. I still think Mayweather would be too much for Pac though. Manny was in 2 great battles against the second best counter puncher in the world in Marquez!! Mayweathers counter punching genius for me is where Mayweather will take control and I truly feel that if the fight does happen it will be Mayweathers last so he'll look to go out on a high and leave the sport on his most convincing win over the man that a lot of people feel will beat him.
This fight MUST happen for the sake of boxing, only thing is, what do we look forward to after it does??
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Saddo
Crazy thing is as you watch the fights and the years progress he gets better and better each time out....There is no such thing as an "OK" performance from Manny Pacquiao...He is just going to go all out in the best style he can...Plus he has started to use defense...Man the longer Floyd waits to fight him the worse it gets for Floyd
Oscar Larios? Jorge Solis? I agree Manny has looked better and better, but I think part of that is effective strategic planning on the part of Roach and Arum.
Oscar was shot when he faced Manny because for whatever reason he couldn't rehydrate. Cotto wasn't the same offensive force he was a few years before, and Clottey's style was tailor made for Manny to beat. I think they had the perfect strategy to beat Hatton. Now I think Manny has to be a great fighter to accomplish what he did, but he definitely had circumstantial advantages when he faced them.
Not to what you wrote, but what somebody else did. I simply think Floyd didn't want to fight in 2010 again. The more he has been in the spotlight, the more it seems Floyd gets stressed out by it. Across his whole career there have been times where he has been less dedicated to fighting often than necessarily the opponents he has foughten. I think Mayweather has faced plenty of opposition, clearly not like Manny has, but Floyd has beaten at least 8 future hall of famers. That is more than almost anyone else except Manny of this era.
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Saddo
Crazy thing is as you watch the fights and the years progress he gets better and better each time out....There is no such thing as an "OK" performance from Manny Pacquiao...He is just going to go all out in the best style he can...Plus he has started to use defense...
Man the longer Floyd waits to fight him the worse it gets for Floyd
Yes its true if this fight happens now, I could agree Floyd can win easily, but he's already middle aged boxer sometimes reflexes are diminishing when you start at 34-35 ish like Roy Jones ala cat reflexes before, still Mayweather cant be ignored a genius in the ring.
Still in doubt in Pacquiao now ,he's been too many wars. to me not long maybe after Margarito he's already a shot fighter. In his last 2-3 fights, his training pushing to the limits fighting bigger men causing some injuries although his team said theres no problem.
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